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    Doug28450

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    Yeah, it's a nightmare to make a left turn out of my subdivision onto Main St in the morning and afternoon with school traffic. Dozens of buses, and hundreds of parents dropping off/picking up. The buses will usually let me out to turn, but I'm still doing it blind. Parents in cars don't give a **** until they cause an accident or someone disrupts their agenda.
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    red_zr24x4

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    I'm looking at moving out of single stage and getting a progressive press. I'm considering Dillon, Hornady or RCBS. Thoughts?
    We've got 2 Dillon 550's a Dillon 650 and a Dillon 1050.
    The 550 is a lot more forgiving, manual idex so it's easier to fix mistakes. Plus its cheaper.
    We still have a rockchucker set up, comes in handy. I like to deprime 223,308,and 30-06 on it
     

    Doug28450

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    We've got 2 Dillon 550's a Dillon 650 and a Dillon 1050.
    The 550 is a lot more forgiving, manual idex so it's easier to fix mistakes. Plus its cheaper.
    We still have a rockchucker set up, comes in handy. I like to deprime 223,308,and 30-06 on it
    What's the difference between the 650 and the 750?
     

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    Federal judge keeps Indiana beaches open to the public​

    A federal judge has dismissed the latest attempt by Northwest Indiana property owners to claim the Lake Michigan shoreline as their own.

    U.S. District Court Chief Judge Jon DeGuilio determined there was no basis for three town of Porter land owners to file suit in federal court seeking to undo a 2018 Indiana Supreme Court ruling that clarified the shoreline of Lake Michigan is owned by the state and held in trust for the enjoyment of all Hoosiers.
    DeGuilio said the claim by Raymond Cahnman, Randall Pavlock, and Kimberley Pavlock that the Gunderson v. State decision amounted to an unconstitutional taking of their beachfront property is not subject to federal court review due to the sovereign immunity provided to states by the U.S. Constitution's 11th Amendment.

    Moreover, even if there was a legitimate federal issue, DeGuilio said the plaintiffs still would lose because Gunderson did not take their land without compensation; they never owned the Lake Michigan shoreline in the first place.

    "Gunderson did not transform private property into public property but clarified where the boundary of the public trust had always existed along the shores of Lake Michigan," DeGuilio said.

    "Without a clearly established property interest in the land, the subsequent state clarification — either by the judiciary or the legislature of where the boundary between state and private property and where the public trust had always existed since Indiana joined the Union in 1816 — cannot be considered a taking."

    The Gunderson decision held that Indiana owns — and always has — the land under Lake Michigan and the adjacent shoreline up to the ordinary high-water mark.
    That mark is defined as the line on the shore established by the fluctuations of water and indicated by physical characteristics, such as a clear and natural line on the bank, shelving or changes in the soil's character.
    The 4-0 Gunderson ruling last year was codified in House Enrolled Act 1385, along with the right of Hoosiers to use the shoreline for walking, fishing, boating, swimming and any other recreational purpose for which Lake Michigan ordinarily is used.


    The law enacted by the Republican-controlled General Assembly also specified Lake Michigan-adjacent private property owners are not entitled to exclusive use of the beach or the water.
    Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita, a Munster native, said he is pleased the Hammond Division of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Indiana granted the state's motion to dismiss the federal suit.

    "The court’s decision affirms what we always knew to be true — that the shoreline of Lake Michigan belongs to every Hoosier for their use and enjoyment," Rokita said.
    Christopher Keiser, an attorney with the Pacific Legal Foundation, the California-based property rights law firm representing the plaintiffs, did not immediately say whether they plan to take the case to the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago.

    "We're disappointed in the decision. Along with our clients, we are considering our next steps," Keiser said.
    The Long Beach Lakefront Homeowners Association appealed the Gunderson ruling directly to the U.S. Supreme Court in October 2018.

    The nation's high court turned away the case without comment in February 2019, seemingly content to leave the Indiana Supreme Court ruling as the final word on Lake Michigan beach ownership.
     

    actaeon277

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    Moreover, even if there was a legitimate federal issue, DeGuilio said the plaintiffs still would lose because Gunderson did not take their land without compensation; they never owned the Lake Michigan shoreline in the first place.

    "Gunderson did not transform private property into public property but clarified where the boundary of the public trust had always existed along the shores of Lake Michigan," DeGuilio said.
     

    Lushamania

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    They bought the land, it was ALREADY the rules. Nothing changed.
    Associated Press said:
    Randall and Kimberley Pavlock, who own a Chicago property management and brokerage company, and Raymond Cahnman, chairman of the TransMarket Group trading firm and a former director of the Chicago Board of Trade...

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    I am very happy with this ruling. The whole case pissed me off from the get-go; a couple of entitled fat cats think they can deprive us of our public property. I think I may go on the beachfront outside their property and do a victory dance.
     

    1775usmarine

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    Bought a 4586 today and stopped at Maple City Sports in Laporte. Hoping he can get a cricket in by the 20th when kid 2 is born otherwise may have to look elsewhere. Its a bad time to have another kid and try to buy a gun on the day they are born. Would like to have a receipt dated the day they were born when they get old enough to receive their gift.
     
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