UAW On Strike

[Rookie]

I didn't see the counter offer mentioned, but I did notice the reference to EV production cutting their workforce. Which political party is pushing for EVs again? Why would they support a political party that is hell bent on cutting their jobs?

That is a damn good question.

 

[sadclownwp]

Fair share...

This is the lie right here. They get huge bonus checks. They should be asking the government not to take so much of their bonus.

 

[red_zr24x4]

I didn't see the counter offer details other than to say that it was a "comprehensive proposal" (intentionally vague?), but I did notice the reference to EV production cutting their workforce. Which political party is pushing for EVs again? Why would they support a political party that is hell bent on cutting their jobs?

He'll last election there was commercials on TV from the U.A. that said vote for the best candidate, Dems got control and shut down the pipelines... this year they're saying vote Dem

 

[duff]

We've caught subcontractor janitorial workers stealing food, stealing toilet paper, washing and drying clothes at the facility....one actually living in a below-grade area.

Does this represent your wife and her coworkers well?

Guess who represents those janitors? So yeah....

 

[Rookie]

They get huge bonus checks.

Compared to who? Talk about a lie. When the big three was in the middle of bankruptcy and the union was giving concessions, plant managers were still getting MASSIVE bonuses, almost 6 figures.

In the 25 years I've worked, I've gotten maybe 5 (no more than 7) profit sharing checks. Only the last two were over $10,000 and only because of record profits.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Dockworkers union files for bankruptcy amid lawsuit over work slowdowns​

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[Rookie]

Dockworkers union files for bankruptcy amid lawsuit over work slowdowns​

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www.msn.com

Not sure what that has to do with the UAW?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Not sure what that has to do with the UAW?

Just with unions in general. The dockworkers' union is being sued into bankruptcy for work slowdowns and stoppages and the harm they've caused. Could the same happen to the UAW?

 

[jamil]

That's it? Kia alone without unions made 2.9M and Hyundai another 3.3M last year. Without unions.

Gasp! No way!

 

[Creedmoor]

Solidarity might be catching. This could get good.

 

[Rookie]

Just with unions in general. The dockworkers' union is being sued into bankruptcy for work slowdowns and stoppages and the harm they've called. Could the same happen to the UAW?

I'm pretty sure they are/were being sued for violating their contract. Since the UAW has no current contract...

 

[Creedmoor]

Just with unions in general. The dockworkers' union is being sued into bankruptcy for work slowdowns and stoppages and the harm they've called. Could the same happen to the UAW?

Call your local International Union Law Attorneys Office and ask.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I'm pretty sure they are/were being sued for violating their contract. Since the UAW has no current contract...

Mea culpa. I may have misunderstood.

 

[Rookie]

Ford's latest offer...

https://x.com/mikewayland/status/1709322380948975668?s=42&t=JwlKCH7ikAwEjpodynTyRA

If you compare to their first offer, then it's pretty obvious that negotiating isn't as bad as some would believe.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Ford's latest offer...

https://x.com/mikewayland/status/1709322380948975668?s=42&t=JwlKCH7ikAwEjpodynTyRA

If you compare to their first offer, then it's pretty obvious that negotiating isn't as bad as some would believe.

That sounds like a reasonable offer to me (based on what was posted).

 

[Rookie]

That sounds like a reasonable offer to me (based on what was posted).

Agreed, based on what is posted. Of course, they are giving the highlights, so I'd be curious to see all of it. I have no dog in the Ford fight, though.

 

[jamil]

Like I said, mine does. If you think $4Billion or so in sales is a major corporation

I think there are two kinds of companies that still pay pensions. 1) companies that **** money and can easily afford them. 2) companies that have a unionized workforce and only pay it because they have to.

 

[jamil]

When AT&T spun off Lucent Technologies in the mid-90s, we went from a company employing 250,000+ to one that had 30,000. But we inherited all of the 100,000 retired Western Electric employees and their benefits. The decision was made that pensions would now only be offered on a sliding scale based on years of employment, with the cutoff service number for the minimum pension to be 15 years. This decision was made as I began my 14th year of employment. It did/does suck, but I understand. But you should have heard the retired, mostly union employees scream when it was also announced that full, free medical insurance would no longer be provided for life to spouses of retired employees.

Weatern Electric employee? <raises hand>.

Small world. I worked for Bell Labs back in the day. After the breakup, they renamed us as AT&T Technologies. I started just before the breakup was finalized. My paycheck still said Western Electric for quite some time. I was a union ho back then, lol. I quit to get a real job just before they spun us off as Lucent. They transferred my AT&T company stock into shares of Lucent, which I sold off like a dumbass. Then Nokia ended up with them.

 

[jamil]

Ford's latest offer...

https://x.com/mikewayland/status/1709322380948975668?s=42&t=JwlKCH7ikAwEjpodynTyRA

If you compare to their first offer, then it's pretty obvious that negotiating isn't as bad as some would believe.

A tweet in response to that one.

 

[Creedmoor]

I think there are two kinds of companies that still pay pensions. 1) companies that **** money and can easily afford them. 2) companies that have a unionized workforce and only pay it because they have to.

With Indiana being a Right to Work State, why would someone pay Union dues when they get the same representation as a dues paying Union member?