Another new "rule" incoming? No more private sales without a ffl involved?

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  • Mgderf

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    Yes sir

    Just posting a little heads up for those who might not be aware of how long-term committed the SJW-Marxist Cabal is to excising 2A from the US Constitution.

    I find most active members on forums like this are aware and alert to the issue but there's always a few who aren't.

    Judging by the speed and economy of your response, it's plain to see you're not in that group.
    I carry a pocket sized copy of the constitution of the United States of America and the Declaration of Independence, provided free from the Cato Institute.
    I have carried this for years, every day, just like my sidearm.
    It is ready for use, as is my sidearm, whenever needed.
    When I am in public, and someone spouts something untrue and stupid about the constitution, I say, "hold on there moose-face, looky here..."
    I do NOT let an opportunity pass to educate, or reeducation someone about the constitution.
     

    Rick Mason

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    Biden set to implement universal background checks

    One of the things gun control advocates have been pushing for is universal background checks. They claim these measures are incredibly popular, despite most people not really understanding what all such checks entail. Passing one has been a major part of what the Biden administration has wanted since taking office. And, thanks to some language in the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, he and his anti-gun allies are set to get what they want.

    Thank you, Sen. Todd Young
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    You are totally correct, at this time Indiana law doesn't require any documentation to sell a firearm via private sale. That's the only reason I made my original comment, because there is no way of knowing who you are selling to.
    So, Dad recently passed and left his firearms to various family members.

    Do you consider that a "loop-hole" that myself, my siblings, my children and nephews did not have to pass a NICS background check to receive the bequeathed firearms?

    I recently traded rifles (plus some cash/cash equivalents) with my son. Do you consider that a loop-hole that we each did not have to complete a NICS background check to complete the trade?

    I recently sold a firearm to a close friend of 25-years. Do you consider that a loop-hole that he did not have to pass a NICS background check to buy the firearm from me?

    UNIVERSAL background checks would require NICS in all of the above. For me, the answer is not just no, not just definitely no but **** NO!

    Also, are there any states with private sale background checks that didn't eventually require registration to "police" private sales? That is the queen mother of all **** no's for me. :)
     

    Mgderf

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    Biden set to implement universal background checks

    One of the things gun control advocates have been pushing for is universal background checks. They claim these measures are incredibly popular, despite most people not really understanding what all such checks entail. Passing one has been a major part of what the Biden administration has wanted since taking office. And, thanks to some language in the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, he and his anti-gun allies are set to get what they want.

    Thank you, Sen. Todd Young
    I think not.
    He may make such declaration, but it will be deemed unconstitutional.
     

    gassprint1

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    Private sales within a state have no federal rule anyways, so not sure why Brandon thinks he is getting anything to constitutionaly passed. Seems to be a moot law to me.
     

    Creedmoor

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    this is how Michigan ( and who knows what other states ) do handgun purchases

    1: Obtain permit to purchase from local law enforcement
    2: Purchase Handgun - dealer fills out their section of permit
    3: Take Handgun AND Permit back to local law enforcement - they verify numbers and give you back Wallet size card
    4: Repeat for any additional handguns

    Be ready to present applicable card to law enforcement ...
    i.e. 6 handguns = 6 wallet cards
    Its time to vote with your feet.
     

    flatlander

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    Biden set to implement universal background checks

    One of the things gun control advocates have been pushing for is universal background checks. They claim these measures are incredibly popular, despite most people not really understanding what all such checks entail. Passing one has been a major part of what the Biden administration has wanted since taking office. And, thanks to some language in the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, he and his anti-gun allies are set to get what they want.

    Thank you, Sen. Todd Young
    **** him . Will not comply.
     

    flatlander

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    I was recently reading up on this subject. I get why people want to be able to sell their private property to others. But I also know that selling a firearm to a guy in a Lowes parking lot and checking his DL isn't necessarily the end all be all to make sure he's not a felon. Cudos to those that check for pink card licenses, but you don't need those anymore (constitutional carry kind of ruined that) and a person could have a lifetime permit and have received a felony afterward. I'm not against ending private sales but I'm not against having to go through a FFL. As that would also help boost some of our LGS who lose a lot of business to online retailers.
    Quisling or just a frog?
     

    actaeon277

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    Indiana USED TO tell everyone all sales had to be reported.

    Guess the compliance on that.

    After wasting $$$$, they got rid of it, cause it didn't help solve crimes.



    Canada's registration, do they still have it?
     

    chipbennett

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    Biden set to implement universal background checks

    One of the things gun control advocates have been pushing for is universal background checks. They claim these measures are incredibly popular, despite most people not really understanding what all such checks entail. Passing one has been a major part of what the Biden administration has wanted since taking office. And, thanks to some language in the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, he and his anti-gun allies are set to get what they want.

    Thank you, Sen. Todd Young
    The article misrepresents the revised definition for "in the business." It isn't "to earn a profit", it is "to predominantly earn a profit." I like BA, but this article is little more than scare-mongering. Not that Biden won't try, of course; he'll just not succeed.

    Actual statutory change from the Safer Communities Act:

    SEC. 12002. DEFINING ``ENGAGED IN THE BUSINESS''.

    Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
    (1) in paragraph (21)(C), by striking ``with the principal
    objective of livelihood and profit
    '' and inserting ``to
    predominantly earn a profit
    '';

    (And, yes: **** you, Todd Young, for voting for this.)
     

    .300 dadbod

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    Just gonna leave this here:

    "...but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;"

    Not that Biden won't try, of course; he'll just not succeed.

    Agreed. I wonder how long places like armslist or our own marketplace here will be temporarily shutdown until it winds it's way through the courts...
     

    KellyinAvon

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    What goes up must come down.
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