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  • MommaBean18

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    Yeah, I immediately searched him on instagram, shortly after the news broke, and well before it was posted on any news site that I know of. It was already gone.

    I feel sorry for the others of the same name on social media, that’s gotta be a crazy experience.
    WDRB (Fox) was there immediately. They showed videos this morning where you could hear gun shots in the background.
     

    MommaBean18

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    Fox news saying 2 separate shootings, neither tied to each other for now. Bank shooter dead..
    Shootings.by the college is unknown and at the bank. It's being talked abour on fox news channel
    It’s been crazy today!

    The first shooting now 5 dead and 9 injured.

    The second shooting, 1 dead and 1 injured. They say the shooter got in their car and fled before police could arrive.

    I LITERALLY JUST DROVE DOWN THE STREET PAST WHERE THE SECOND SHOOTING HAPPENED JUST MINUTES BEFORE!! Me and my coworkers were texting about the first shooting when I replied, “I wonder what’s going on now? I just heard all of LMPD go down Broadway with lights and sirens”. To where one replied, “apparently another active shooter”!

    It happened not even 2 blocks from my work! I’m going through it a bit today.

    So sad for the lives lost due to one’s selfish decision.
     

    gassprint1

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    There is just way too much crap the young people believe from the news and social media these days. It's too easy to spread lies and deceive people into what really isn't real. I have taught my 18yr old daughter not to believe everything she sees or hears. I make my decisions on a collaboration of past and present things. Add in if something makes sense or not. Most people yhrow out the excuse to let their kids make up their own mind and learn from those mistakes and that's the problem. Too many mistakes made by others and parents do nothing to teach and enlighten the kids so they don't do the same.
     

    gassprint1

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    It’s been crazy today!

    The first shooting now 5 dead and 9 injured.

    The second shooting, 1 dead and 1 injured. They say the shooter got in their car and fled before police could arrive.

    I LITERALLY JUST DROVE DOWN THE STREET PAST WHERE THE SECOND SHOOTING HAPPENED JUST MINUTES BEFORE!! Me and my coworkers were texting about the first shooting when I replied, “I wonder what’s going on now? I just heard all of LMPD go down Broadway with lights and sirens”. To where one replied, “apparently another active shooter”!

    It happened not even 2 blocks from my work! I’m going through it a bit today.

    So sad for the lives lost due to one’s selfish decision.
    Damn, how things change quickly. I haven't watched the news since i posted the original count. I kinda got tired of the repeated information and seen no point in watching if nothing new was to be said.
     

    MommaBean18

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    There is just way too much crap the young people believe from the news and social media these days. It's too easy to spread lies and deceive people into what really isn't real. I have taught my 18yr old daughter not to believe everything she sees or hears. I make my decisions on a collaboration of past and present things. Add in if something makes sense or not. Most people yhrow out the excuse to let their kids make up their own mind and learn from those mistakes and that's the problem. Too many mistakes made by others and parents do nothing to teach and enlighten the kids so they don't do the same.
    Yes, so many kids are so into the media these days and think it’s reality. I do the same with my daughter and explain that everything you see isn’t real. She decided on her on to delete her TikTok. I’m proud of her for that!
     

    actaeon277

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    This might suggest something about motive. He posted the following to social media this morning, among other things.

    “They won't listen to words or protests. Lets see if they hear this.”

    Of course being fired last week might have also contributed.
    Well, and the media drumming into people's heads to us a rifle to shoot people
     

    Denny347

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    Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining. The government has control. His Reddit account is gone, why? He didn’t live stream to Reddit. If I remember correctly didn’t twitter work directly with the fbi to stop the hunter Biden laptop story? Didn’t mark Zuckerberg tell Joe Rogan the fbi came knocking about Russian propaganda about to be spread right before the laptop story. The fbi has worked directly with the 3 main social media platforms and prevented the discussion of relevant matters. How many agents have been caught throwing fuel on the fire. Michigan, dc, ruby ridge. This has been happening for a long time. Who else did alphabet agencies talk to? Probably a lot of mainstream media. It isn’t enough that there’s communist troll farms across the globe stoking the flames of social divide but we have our own bureaus to worry about as well? Why on earth would anyone trust agencies to tell the truth after documented proof they’re involved with shutting down speech, and working their way undercover into powder kegs and helping them ignite.
    Yep. Dude was a total average reddit chapo lefty bug person and that's why it all got scrubbed instantly. So they can blame guns, again, as always.
    So what narrative have the Feds given that doesn't sound right? Seems early for that. Having our own similar active killer here a few years ago at Fed Ex, we took similar steps with the killer with social media presence. Prevents anything from being added or subtracted, frozen in time. Our Cyber Crimes detectives handle that. That guy was a 100% whackjob. We have plenty of whackjobs. We encounter them daily.
     

    Denny347

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    A quote from another post but it seems to fit here.

    If any INGO member gets involved in a self defense shooting I’m sure Guy would instruct us to erase all INGO comments we ever made. Delete it all….that would be my guess.

    It's the very reason they are all taken down from public view. Still visible to LE but just not accessible to anyone that might have the passwords.
     

    Dog1

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    They hurt.
    So they want to hurt others
    Yep. People like this buy into that crap that people put on the internet and on TV when they tell others that it's not your fault that your life is gone down the crapper, you got fired, your wife left you, your car got repossessed, Etc.

    I call it the Bill Clinton syndrome. During all of his scandals it was somebody else's fault. It was the Republicans fault, it was the religious rights fault, it was the gun owners fault. It was everybody else's fault but his. People like this guy that shot up this Bank believe that because he got fired- even though it was probably his fault that he got fired - he has to blame somebody else and make them pay. Society is telling people nowadays that they don't have to take responsibility for things they do they can just blame other people. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better
     
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    funeralweb

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    My brother-in-law was a senior executive with Old National Bank before climbing up to a position with another institution.


    Me:
    Did you know any of these people?

    Sister:
    Most of them. ******* was still close with Jim Tutt and knew Tommy Elliott. Also was close with others shot and/or nearby at the time. ******* has a call each Wednesday with another dear friend who just retired from that office. Connor’s parents were best friends with one of the top people at ONB in Evansville, who we are also very close with. We have socialized with his parents (and him when he was younger) many times over the years. Great family.

    Things you won’t see the media reporting about: Connor’s recent association with BLM and recently beginning antidepressants that are common in most of these shootings. They take away the highs and lows of depression but are known to cause suicidal thoughts and erratic behavior.
     

    kickbacked

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    So what narrative have the Feds given that doesn't sound right? Seems early for that. Having our own similar active killer here a few years ago at Fed Ex, we took similar steps with the killer with social media presence. Prevents anything from being added or subtracted, frozen in time. Our Cyber Crimes detectives handle that. That guy was a 100% whackjob. We have plenty of whackjobs. We encounter them daily.
    Nowhere did I say that they sound shady in this situation. They have a long history of it though. I’m not going to forget about their past doings and believe everything that they say now. If it’s on the internet, it’s not getting removed, he’s not adding to it. You don’t think that instagram has the ability to see edits or deleted content?

    You keep working around my point that grown adults should be able if they so please to look at this guy’s posts on the internet and form their own conclusions about who he was, what he believed, etc. As grown adults we don’t need to be protected from his prior Reddit/ ig posts that didn’t violate tos and were allowed to be viewed by anyone until the point he committed a mass shooting. Me knowing what this guy posted about does not interfere with any agency’s investigation. It does however arm us with the intelligence to be able to combat those that blame shootings on republicans, and those that want to strip our rights from us.

    Did this guy go postal, most likely. I’m not trying to take anyone’s job and play detective. I would however like to be able to say “you can look here and see this guy was anti trump, anti 2a, etc and his actions weren’t that of a right wing supporter” like people on the internet will and probably already have said. The more information the public has the more they’re able to come to rational conclusion. Now that it’s all been removed the media, agencies, whomever can put out false narratives to push the topic in the direction of their choosing.

    Why can’t the public know the trans shooters manifesto? Why are they quickly out of the media? The fbi/ leo’s could do a lot to garnish public trust if they were more transparent and less involved with infiltrating groups just to add stress to an already unstable structure.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    So what narrative have the Feds given that doesn't sound right? Seems early for that. Having our own similar active killer here a few years ago at Fed Ex, we took similar steps with the killer with social media presence. Prevents anything from being added or subtracted, frozen in time. Our Cyber Crimes detectives handle that. That guy was a 100% whackjob. We have plenty of whackjobs. We encounter them daily.
    Who took the Insta down? Who else has control of Insta but Insta/FB? They are the ones who control the account. Why did they take it down, I would assume live streaming the murders violates some policy or another and thus becomes locked. When my friends get kicked for violating the policy, they disappear as well, at least until the are paroled from FB jail.

    Hmmm, evaluation based on what exactly? You think that is enough to make ANY judgment? You MIGHT need the investigating agency to tell you a motive based on ALL the evidence and not just some social media posts.

    A bit of an overdramatization.


    So why imply in your other post that Insta/FB is the only ones that could take control of the accounts, when you already know that other people can and do control them?
     
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