What is the correct response? (alternate title: keeping your pimp hand strong)

[SheepDog4Life]

SO lets change the scene a bit, what if he was 100lbs and she was 200lbs, does that make a difference?

I cannot truthfully answer that as I've never been smaller in stature.

But, if the size/strength was truly reversed, the dude would have been the one getting up from the ground dazed and confused with the first slap.

A woman twice my size would be easily avoidable, lol!

What if it was a frying pan and not her hand?

IMO, weapon in her hand is be different. Or at least can be... 90-lb woman with a sledge hammer she can barely lift... naw.

Should a man NEVER hit a woman (this for those saying to walk away, block etc..).

"Just" because she slapped him... "just" because she said or screamed what-ever.... I'd say yeah, never.

Above was mentioned that men don't hit women because of size difference and damage that can be done. is it truly a size issue or a gender issue?

Both... lethal weapon in hand changes things.

99.9% of the time, these things aren't existential... they're ego.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

I taught my daughters that if they were man enough to throw a punch, then they better be man enough to take a punch.

I don't disagree.. just to be clear, zero sympathy for the woman in this video... cosmically, she reaped what she sowed.

But also, IMO, zero respect for the guy... I'm not using the word "man" to describe him on purpose.

 

[Denny347]

I get the feeling she would not stop at one slap if it were blocked. If she continues the violent attack and intensifies the attack, is there a response where the guy won't take a loss (on one level, or another)?

I'm not saying the guy did anything wrong here. However, I would hardly describe the woman's actions as a "violent attack". She slapped his face. She had ALL the pre attack indicators that a strike/slap was coming. Blocking it would be the best response. After that, if he couldn't prevent further slaps, there appeared to be a significant size disparity, then he needs to go find some training. Have a little self respect. Context is king though. If I was called to investigate this incident (with no surprises, what we saw is what we got) and I saw this video, I'd arrest her for battery.

 

[bwframe]

...its a shame an actual man wasnt around and intervened after that woman was slapped to the floor.

Looks a lot like it was over, after she was slapped.

Apparently the "actual men" knew the crazy bitch too?

Really really bad idea for random bystanders to jump in the middle of a physical domestic squabble. Especially when the female started it.

Even law enforcement are not quick to jump in too fast. You and me, we'd get stabbed in the back by crazy bitch. Then bleed out and get written up as part of a bar fight vs the hero we were foolishly trying to be.

Been there, done that.
Modern Combative Systems, 2010...


.

 

[Route 45]

But how can she slap?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

But how can she slap?

WTH was that?? Why did they start out in English and end up in some language I didn't understand? And why did it take like, 30 guys to come to the one guy's rescue after she slapped him?

 

[Route 45]

WTH was that?? Why did they start out in English and end up in some language I didn't understand? And why did it take like, 30 guys to come to the one guy's rescue after she slapped him?

That’s an internet famous viral video from a TV show in India. They use a lot of English mixed with Hindi in India.

 

[J Galt]

I'm not saying the guy did anything wrong here. However, I would hardly describe the woman's actions as a "violent attack". She slapped his face. She had ALL the pre attack indicators that a strike/slap was coming. Blocking it would be the best response. After that, if he couldn't prevent further slaps, there appeared to be a significant size disparity, then he needs to go find some training. Have a little self respect. Context is king though. If I was called to investigate this incident (with no surprises, what we saw is what we got) and I saw this video, I'd arrest her for battery.

I would call it violent. This was violent by any definition. Speaking of definition: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/violent

"using force to hurt or attack"

You can downplay it for whatever reason, but her slap was not intended for anything except to hurt him and it most certainly was an attack. It most certainly was not foreplay. It most certainly was not playful.

Pre-assult cues does not make the act any less violent and does not take away from the fact that it was an attack. There is no burden on the person being attacked to recognize anything or be able to defend themselves. If roles were reversed would you say that she needed training? Would you say that she needed to recognize pre-assault cues so that made things not violent? Frankly these comments show a clear bias.

It's curious that you state that you would arrest her based on the video alone but engage in shaming the guy.

• he needs to go find some training
• Have a little self respect

Having said that you do admit that based on this she would end up arrested.

 

[Twangbanger]

The best part was the incredibly bored, give-a-sh.t look on the face of the guy sitting on the bar stool.

Assuming this wasn't staged...dude absolutely took the cake.

 

[Sigblitz]

That’s an internet famous viral video from a TV show in India. They use a lot of English mixed with Hindi in India.

I knew it. In the real, she'd go straight for the hair.

 

[OkieGirl]

There's a lot of context missing. I'm guessing there was a whole lotta chest thumping and mouth running before what was edited down to the controversial slap-watched-around-the-world. No way the dude didn't see that coming, she was telegraphing for a couple steps. Even if she was a total stranger to him, no way he didn't see that coming. WHY would he not bat that drunk hand away is beyond me. I guess it was just a friendly game of 'whack-a-hoe' in Russia?

Do I think the guy should have knocked her across the room? Nope. Did she set herself up for it? Yep.

 

[Bassat]

I have hit one woman in my 66 years. She was pissed. I was 3 days late coming home from work one time. She met me in the kitchen and was SCREAMING (not like I didn't deserve it) at the top of her lungs. All well and good until she pulled a 5-shot snubby .38 (yes, it is enough) out of her robe and stuck it in my face. I punched her, instinctively. She went down, unconscious. I unloaded the gun, put it in trunk of my car, locked the ammo in my toolbox. I felt my response was justified and appropriate. Still do. Had she not had a gun, it never would have happened. You may scream all you like. You may not shoot me.

 

[Route 45]

All well and good until she pulled a 5-shot snubby .38 (yes, it is enough) out of her robe...

 

[Sigblitz]

I don't know if he's serious or I should laugh.

 

[J Galt]

I don't know if he's serious or I should laugh.

I believe Bassat. I believe he was justified. Deadly force is equal across both genders. If you think a female can't kill, you live in a fantasy world.

He had a gun pointed at him. Take gender out of the description and there would be 99% agreement that punching the person with the gun is a relatively mild response.

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

Fake or not. Justified or not. I can't not watch it over and over.

Hadouken!

 

[Bassat]

I don't know if he's serious or I should laugh.

True story. I was 21, newly married, fresh out the US Army. Oh, yeah, I had a drinking problem. Left for work on Friday morning, got home Sunday afternoon. She was rightfully a bit peeved. I did not keep a loaded gun in the house for the remainder of that marriage.
I am not proud of it. It was a knee-jerk reaction to a deadly threat. She was 5'2" 120# to my 6'0" 220#. I can't help but wonder if I would have swung on a guy larger than myself. Not my finest moment, in any event.

 

[Denny347]

I would call it violent. This was violent by any definition. Speaking of definition: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/violent

"using force to hurt or attack"

You can downplay it for whatever reason, but her slap was not intended for anything except to hurt him and it most certainly was an attack. It most certainly was not foreplay. It most certainly was not playful.

Pre-assult cues does not make the act any less violent and does not take away from the fact that it was an attack. There is no burden on the person being attacked to recognize anything or be able to defend themselves. If roles were reversed would you say that she needed training? Would you say that she needed to recognize pre-assault cues so that made things not violent? Frankly these comments show a clear bias.

It's curious that you state that you would arrest her based on the video alone but engage in shaming the guy.

• he needs to go find some training
• Have a little self respect

Having said that you do admit that based on this she would end up arrested.

Of course I'm biased, I've been teaching this stuff for years. Reverse the rolls and yes, I'd be saying the same thing about her. But a little less on the self respect since SHE is significantly smaller than the aggressor. BUT, her ability to see and respond to pre-attack indicators is ever more critical because she is much smaller and unable to absorb hit well. Like I stated, she's the only one that broke the law (if we take the video at face value). What she did was Misd battery, rude touch that caused pain. I guess it was violence and it was an attack. But when you put the terms together, it really describes something more than "my face stings". Felony level battery, significant injuries and/or weapons. Now, the first rule of fighting is avoid fighting if possible. "No burden". Well, I guess if you LIKE getting hit, go for it. If you actually pay attention to pre-attack indicators, then you USE them to avoid being attacked. If there was NO video and her slap didn't leave any visible marks (sometimes happens) and her injuries were visible, guess who could be going to jail? ESPECIALLY if there is a domestic relationship.

 

[jamil]

But how can she slap?

WTF was that?

 

[Route 45]

WTF was that?

Objection: Asked and answered