Vaccines and stuff: Pt 2

[OkieGirl]

Same exact thing with my Dad and Stepmother. They tried very hard to convince me to get the jab "for their sake" and didn't understand when I was adamantly opposed to doing so. Now that it's apparent that the jabs were worthless and can cause serious side effects, they don't want to talk about it...

I work for an employer who mandated it and had to fight for an exemption then was subject to weekly testing till the fall of 2022. My parents and siblings are all jabbed and share a low opinion of my stance.

My adult son is a first responder in Indy and was nearly first in line when they started rolling out these new inoculations. He had the first version of Covid in January 2020 (yes, before it was supposed to have been here and had 104 temps, body aches, cough that wouldn't quit, severe fatigue, etc...) it was horrible and lasted several weeks but he didn't catch it again till after he had gotten his full round of vaccinations for it. Now he's had three bouts with Covid since being 'fully vaccinated' from it. He's also started having issues with his heart that they are trying to properly diagnose and treat since it's so unusual for males in their early 20's to have heart issues.

 

[KLB]

There are only two options here: 1.) they knew and intentionally set about harming the American People or 2.) They really were that stupid and are now criminally negligent.

There is a third option, they were that greedy. Lots of horrible things have been done to people in search of making more money.

 

[JCSR]

Beginning to heat up.

 

[JCSR]

American Idol contestant CJ Harris dies at age 31

The artist seemed to suffer a heart attack and was taken by ambulance to a local hospital in his hometown of Jasper, Alabama. Shortly after arriving in the emergency room.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[jamil]

There is a third option, they were that greedy. Lots of horrible things have been done to people in search of making more money.

It looks to me like, regardless of all the conspiracy theories about "plandemic", profit was the primary motive for mandating vaccines. Masks may have just been a precursor to that.

 

[JCSR]

Died at the age of 52 from a heart attack​

Gino Odjick dies at the age of 52 from a heart attack

His sister, Dina Odjick, posted the news on her Facebook, writing: Our hearts are broken. My brother Gino Odjick has left us for the spirit world.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[OkieGirl]

There is a third option, they were that greedy. Lots of horrible things have been done to people in search of making more money.

Wouldn't that roll up under option #1? "1.) they knew and intentionally set about harming the American People" If they knew, they weighted the pros and cons of moving forward. The love of money would be the motivator to move forward when they knew they were causing harm.

To layer a bit of conspiracy [adjusts her tin hat] there are now thousands of American citizens who need new medications and drug regiments to counteract the conditions caused by this inoculation. There are also thousands of Americans who delayed medical care for conditions that otherwise occurred naturally and now they are subject to more aggressive medical treatments and more complex drug regiments. It's as if big pharma created a self sustaining, enslaved consumer base...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

It looks to me like, regardless of all the conspiracy theories about "plandemic", profit was the primary motive for mandating vaccines. Masks may have just been a precursor to that.

I was listening to a guy that is a cold case detective out in LA. It was on a different topic but what he said still applies, I think. When it comes to crimes like murder the motive can almost always be boiled down to one (or a combination) of three things: money, sex, and power. Increasingly, I think power was the key motivating factor with the money it brought in was the fueling factor that perpetuated it.

 

[BugI02]

It looks to me like, regardless of all the conspiracy theories about "plandemic", profit was the primary motive for mandating vaccines. Masks may have just been a precursor to that.

IDK. I still find the presence of the furin cleavage site in the viral genome, the fact that no proposed natural precursor to WuVid so far has exhibited anything like it and the unlikelihood of it being a direct mutation from those proposed precursors to be indicative of human manipulation/gain of function

Whether it was a 'plandemic' would seem to turn solely on whether it was in truth a lab leak/accident or whether it was a deliberate test that got out of hand. Given the events of the last few years, I am unwilling to rule out a deliberate effort to cull the herd

 

[wtburnette]

This is all still especially bad considering there are still vaccine mandates in place and the government and medical industry are still pushing the jabs, even while beginning to admit that there are severe side effects...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

If you refuse to look for the cause, there can be no cause.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Cross posting this one…

 

[Leadeye]

It looks to me like, regardless of all the conspiracy theories about "plandemic", profit was the primary motive for mandating vaccines. Masks may have just been a precursor to that.

Always follow the money.

 

[OkieGirl]

This is all still especially bad considering there are still vaccine mandates in place and the government and medical industry are still pushing the jabs, even while beginning to admit that there are severe side effects...

The medical industry (hospitals and primary care) has not admitting any side effects. They are still full speed on their message to vaccinate all under their care. If you go for your annual check-up you will be offered the jab, if you log on to the patient portal to see the history of your care you will likely be informed by some message or flashing banner that you are over due for your jab. If you walk into a pharmacy for the Flu vax you will likely also be asked if you have had your Covid jab yet. They are not done pushing this

 

[wtburnette]

The medical industry (hospitals and primary care) has not admitting any side effects. They are still full speed on their message to vaccinate all under their care. If you go for your annual check-up you will be offered the jab, if you log on to the patient portal to see the history of your care you will likely be informed by some message or flashing banner that you are over due for your jab. If you walk into a pharmacy for the Flu vax you will likely also be asked if you have had your Covid jab yet. They are not done pushing this

Agreed. Thus far the CDC has started to admit the side effects, but continues to spread the gospel of the jab regardless

 

[Leadeye]

IDK. I still find the presence of the furin cleavage site in the viral genome, the fact that no proposed natural precursor to WuVid so far has exhibited anything like it and the unlikelihood of it being a direct mutation from those proposed precursors to be indicative of human manipulation/gain of function

Whether it was a 'plandemic' would seem to turn solely on whether it was in truth a lab leak/accident or whether it was a deliberate test that got out of hand. Given the events of the last few years, I am unwilling to rule out a deliberate effort to cull the herd

I always figured that the WHO and other principals, read Fauci & Co., wanted to do research on MRNA, but it would have been considered risky at best here in the USA and expensive. Enter China where you can get anything done for the right amount of cash, just maybe not done consistently, accurately, or safely. For those of you familiar with the term "30 foot car" China is a "30 foot country". Many years ago, when my old employer started doing business in China and it brought me into working with them, I told the gardener that China would host the next Chernobyl and here we are.

 

[jamil]

IDK. I still find the presence of the furin cleavage site in the viral genome, the fact that no proposed natural precursor to WuVid so far has exhibited anything like it and the unlikelihood of it being a direct mutation from those proposed precursors to be indicative of human manipulation/gain of function

Whether it was a 'plandemic' would seem to turn solely on whether it was in truth a lab leak/accident or whether it was a deliberate test that got out of hand. Given the events of the last few years, I am unwilling to rule out a deliberate effort to cull the herd

I’m not ruling anything out. I most strongly suspect that it came from a lab. Given the GoF research that was being done at that lab, it’s reasonable to suspect that it was one of those viruses that got out, and it was modified to make it more deadly.

Was it intentional? Don't know. The outcome isn't evidence of the motive. We have the evidence of a smoking gun with profit motive. At least in terms of what pharma and its allies did to mandate vaccines and gaslight the public.

More than one thing can be truth though. It could also be true that the release was intentional, that the motive was “culling”, that pharma got a payoff to make the whole plan work. There just aren’t the dots to connect the outcome to that motive. So to me, as it is now, it looks to me like profit was the primary motive. I reserve the right to update that opinion if/when more dots are connected.

I hope the House investigations reveal what really happened. I'm not holding my breath waiting.

 

[JCSR]

So good I actually read the whole article. My apologies to INGO.

Three years after COVID hit, we can see which pols got it wrong — and did real damage

At the start of the pandemic, “experts” shouted: “Stay home!” “Close schools!” “Wash your hands!” “Disinfect countertops!”

nypost.com

 

[BugI02]

I was listening to a guy that is a cold case detective out in LA. It was on a different topic but what he said still applies, I think. When it comes to crimes like murder the motive can almost always be boiled down to one (or a combination) of three things: money, sex, and power. Increasingly, I think power was the key motivating factor with the money it brought in was the fueling factor that perpetuated it.

I feel like the one responsible for so much evil in the world indeed uses money, sex and power to manipulate men, but I think his motivation is likely much more opaque. Animus towards the creator or merely to foment more evil in the world seem too simplistic

 

[BugI02]

I’m not ruling anything out. I most strongly suspect that it came from a lab. Given the GoF research that was being done at that lab, it’s reasonable to suspect that it was one of those viruses that got out, and it was modified to make it more deadly.

Was it intentional? Don't know. The outcome isn't evidence of the motive. We have the evidence of a smoking gun with profit motive. At least in terms of what pharma and its allies did to mandate vaccines and gaslight the public.

More than one thing can be truth though. It could also be true that the release was intentional, that the motive was “culling”, that pharma got a payoff to make the whole plan work. There just aren’t the dots to connect the outcome to that motive. So to me, as it is now, it looks to me like profit was the primary motive. I reserve the right to update that opinion if/when more dots are connected.

I hope the House investigations reveal what really happened. I'm not holding my breath waiting.

Given the nature of and rarity of furin cleavage capability in viruses as a whole, I would suspect bioweapons research more than gain of function (or one piggybacking on the other). If there exists almost no possibility of a virus developing that capability as a mutation or thru exchange of RNA fragments with another virus in a host it would not seem a very practical research target to probe a gain of function much less likely to happen than many other possibilities