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  • BiscuitsandGravy

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    I'm running Armory Crafts adjustable flat trigger in my P239. Along with AC's reduced power springs, The Sig Amorer's Super Strut and a SRT kit, it is a very very smooth short reset DA/SA.
     

    Bosbar

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    After having 2 knuckles replaced on my rt. hand, I lost a lot of dexterity in my first 2 fingers.

    When my trigger finger goes in the trigger guard, it always lands on the point of the trigger.
    This is irritating once you get past 50 rds.

    For this reason, I have flat triggers on all of my guns possible.
     

    Amishman44

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    I ordered the Apex polymer flat faced Forward Set trigger for my M&P. It'll be interesting to see how I like it. I'll report back once I have had a chance to use it.
    I ended up picking up a Gen 1 Sheild 9mm today that has an APEX Flat-Faced Trigger on it...
    I played around with it and actually liked it! Big reason why I bought it was because of how nice the trigger felt, even with snap caps in it...now, to get some range time with it and feel it in action!
     

    DadSmith

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    I really don't have any preference between the two. I just want a nice trigger no more than 5lb on pistols and 4lbs is what I like. On rifles 4lbs down to 2.5lbs.
    If a trigger is much higher it affects accuracy IMO.
     

    gregkl

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    I really don't have any preference between the two. I just want a nice trigger no more than 5lb on pistols and 4lbs is what I like. On rifles 4lbs down to 2.5lbs.
    If a trigger is much higher it affects accuracy IMO.
    The factory trigger on my M&P is an average of 4 lbs, 6 oz. It will be interesting to see where the Apex trigger shakes out.

    Edit: realized I didn't put the correct trigger pull weight in. I installed the Apex and ended up with an average of 2 lbs, 12 oz which is in line with my 1911 if I recall. Hopefully I will get to the range tomorrow to try it out.
     
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    kjdoski

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    On 1911s, yes - flat face is better, pretty much across the board. On pivoting trigger guns, it varies. I find the flat face trigger on the new M&Ps and Shield Plus models to be a nice upgrade. I do NOT like the flat face trigger on the P365XL/X/whatever - I feel it really increases trigger reach and arc of movement.

    I've tried a bunch of after market Glock flat face triggers, and most of them left me luke warm. Of course, the ones that "feel" nice have a dangerous tendency to defeat some of the factory internal safeties to achieve that nice trigger pull, so hard pass on that.
     

    DadSmith

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    The factory trigger on my M&P is an average of lbs, 12 oz. It will be interesting to see where the Apex trigger shakes out.
    Sounds like a hair trigger at 12oz.
    My Ronin is at 4lbs and it feels perfect to me.
    My Shield 45 is 5 1/4 lbs it's on the heavy side but workable.
    My CZ P10F is 4lbs as well.
     

    BrassBandit

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    I really don't have any preference between the two. I just want a nice trigger no more than 5lb on pistols and 4lbs is what I like. On rifles 4lbs down to 2.5lbs.
    If a trigger is much higher it affects accuracy IMO.
    Agree with this. In rifles I’m not as big as a fan of the flat triggers and really do like the “hybrid” style curved/flat like the CMC CCT.
     

    gregkl

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    Sounds like a hair trigger at 12oz.
    My Ronin is at 4lbs and it feels perfect to me.
    My Shield 45 is 5 1/4 lbs it's on the heavy side but workable.
    My CZ P10F is 4lbs as well.
    Yeah, it's really light...on paper. But when you add the pounds part, not so much. I corrected it and even took another average before I swapped the triggers.
     

    DadSmith

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    Yeah, it's really light...on paper. But when you add the pounds part, not so much. I corrected it and even took another average before I swapped the triggers.
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    That's the trigger I'm using on my CZ P10F.
    I'm getting 4lb pull with it. It states 4.25 lb minimum so I'm getting Slightly less which is a plus.
     

    ECS686

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    Had a Sig 320 X5 Legion and the Flat Trigger was pretty good. Have shot a couple Sig 365 CL’s same.

    However I’m not a fan of aftermarket flat or any triggers. In 39 some years of running guns and seeing a lot of folks shooting about everything the Glocks and Strikers that choke are aftermarket triggers and parts. So I’ll pass but that’s just me.

    (Of course cutting my teeth with DA Revolvers back in the day not sure what’s bad about a 5 pound Glock or M&P trigger but I’m weird like that LOL)
     

    venenoindy

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    Question: Does anyone else prefer flat-faced triggers and, if so, what brand or manufacturer do you prefer and why?

    I've tried the 3.5# Ghost Trigger and didn't like that it didn't have a felt 'break-point' on it before it fired! Just wasn't comfortable for me from a safety viewpoint!
    I have an Agency arms flat face on my G34 and like it a lot, totally opposite to you I like the Ghost connector without the wall. I seen to do really well this this set up.
     

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    Both of my flat trigger guns are factory SIG triggers - P365X and P322. Also have the curved trigger P365. With the P322 you have the option of switching to the curved trigger which I did and liked better. As to the P365X I might switch the lower with my P365 and see how it feels. Can still shoot the flat triggers well but the curved just feels more natural to me.
     

    Amishman44

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    Had a Sig 320 X5 Legion and the Flat Trigger was pretty good. Have shot a couple Sig 365 CL’s same.
    However I’m not a fan of aftermarket flat or any triggers. In 39 some years of running guns and seeing a lot of folks shooting about everything the Glocks and Strikers that choke are aftermarket triggers and parts. So I’ll pass but that’s just me.
    (Of course cutting my teeth with DA Revolvers back in the day not sure what’s bad about a 5 pound Glock or M&P trigger but I’m weird like that LOL)
    Ha...interestingly, I'm actually a DAO trigger revolver fan...and still train with them occasionally!
    I've done a couple of McCARBO trigger jobs on some Rugers and it improves them a LOT!!!
     

    gregkl

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    Tried the new trigger today at the range. I really like it.

    The only thing bad is that I should have done it a couple years ago!

    It's true what they say; it's very 1911-ish in feel.
     

    DadSmith

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    What trigger would you all recommend for a Shield 45 1.0? I'd like to get it around 4lb.
    Can a gunsmith work with the original trigger to accomplish that?
     

    ECS686

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    What trigger would you all recommend for a Shield 45 1.0? I'd like to get it around 4lb.
    Can a gunsmith work with the original trigger to accomplish that?
    I would recommend just shooting it. I have had M&Ps from 2007 when they first came out to 2 2.0’s and the triggers aren’t bad.

    The difference with an M&P over a Glock is the M&P actually has a cocked striker where the Glock is fully forward. So an M&P your just releasing the striker anyway. If you go much lighter you will either have dependability issues IR worse it go off when you don’t need it to.

    That said since S&W offer Flat(er) triggers as a factory option on the newer Shield plus that would be my only recommendation is see if they would be compatible with the 45 Shield.

    JMHO based on about 30 years of seeing folks screw up strikers buying into marketing by folks that want to sell stuff!
     
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