3 Arkansas officers involved in violent arrest are identified

[gregr]

This is not going to be popular here... but that is part of the job that law enforcement signed up for. I'm thankful that there are men and women who are willing to take the hate that is directed at them and still act professionally. Those that cannot need to find another profession and not be judge, jury, and executioner. Find another line of work if you cannot control your emotions.

It doesn't matter what that guy did before, and if they thought he was a deadly threat, they should have pulled out their guns and shot him. They instead threw him a beating. I hope they pay the appropriate price for that. I suspect we will see them crying like little babies when they are sentenced.

Good for you for being morally superior. Hope that works out for you...

 

[DoggyDaddy]

It doesn't matter what that guy did before, and if they thought he was a deadly threat, they should have pulled out their guns and shot him. They instead threw him a beating. I hope they pay the appropriate price for that. I suspect we will see them crying like little babies when they are sentenced.

And what do you think the court of public opinion would have done with them for shooting him? He's alive, is he not?

 

[gregr]

And what do you think the court of public opinion would have done with them for shooting him? He's alive, is he not?

You`re not going to win with this guy. His mind is made up, he`s right and we`re wrong.

 

[DadSmith]

This is not going to be popular here... but that is part of the job that law enforcement signed up for. I'm thankful that there are men and women who are willing to take the hate that is directed at them and still act professionally. Those that cannot need to find another profession and not be judge, jury, and executioner. Find another line of work if you cannot control your emotions.

It doesn't matter what that guy did before, and if they thought he was a deadly threat, they should have pulled out their guns and shot him. They instead threw him a beating. I hope they pay the appropriate price for that. I suspect we will see them crying like little babies when they are sentenced.

You mean mentally ill men and women?

 

[Epicenity]

This is not going to be popular here... but that is part of the job that law enforcement signed up for. I'm thankful that there are men and women who are willing to take the hate that is directed at them and still act professionally. Those that cannot need to find another profession and not be judge, jury, and executioner. Find another line of work if you cannot control your emotions.

It doesn't matter what that guy did before, and if they thought he was a deadly threat, they should have pulled out their guns and shot him. They instead threw him a beating. I hope they pay the appropriate price for that. I suspect we will see them crying like little babies when they are sentenced.

I agree with this. I don't want to live in a society where the police are punishment squads. If they are taking revenge for what someone did, it feels like they are behaving like a gang. I don't understand why the LEO driving that man's face into the pavement shouldn't face prosecution for it like anyone else would. Also, it seems like the other two should be charged as accessories as well as qualified immunity stripped from all of them.

 

[Denny347]

Also, it seems like the other two should be charged as accessories as well as qualified immunity stripped from all of them.

Accessories? To what? Was their use of force excessive as well? Did they have enough time to divert their attention from what they were doing to notice their coworker using excessive force then have an opportunity to stop him from doing it?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I agree with this. I don't want to live in a society where the police are punishment squads. If they are taking revenge for what someone did, it feels like they are behaving like a gang. I don't understand why the LEO driving that man's face into the pavement shouldn't face prosecution for it like anyone else would. Also, it seems like the other two should be charged as accessories as well as qualified immunity stripped from all of them.

Lol, police are far from "punishment squads." If they were, the recidivism rate of criminals would be near 0%. Funny how the restraint of hundreds of thousands of officers in the US are lumped in with these 3. I guess I should compare all lawful gun owners to any person that has ever used a gun to commit a crime.

 

[Shadow01]

Let's go back to the way they were handled it the 1800's. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Just another reason to make criminals not want to commit crime.

I don’t have issues with criminals getting their due. My concern is the beat downs handed out to people that didn’t deserve it from bad cops. We do have bad cops out there. FBI anyone?ATF anyone? I’m not confident enough in our legal system to let the police decide how to deter crime on the streets. Now if you can guarantee that no one that doesn’t deserve a beat down won’t get one, then have at it.

just watched a video where an officer used a computer coin flip app to determine if a speeder got a ticket or was arrested with a vehicle impound. Is that the officer we want handing out beat downs?

 

[Epicenity]

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Lol, police are far from "punishment squads." If they were, the recidivism rate of criminals would be near 0%. Funny how the restraint of hundreds of thousands of officers in the US are lumped in with these 3. I guess I should compare all lawful gun owners to any person that has ever used a gun to commit a crime.

I said I didn't want them acting that way, I did not say they all are. The ones that are should be held to account. You seem to be having an emotional reaction instead of reading, but I'll play along. If they were, I don't think "the recidivism rate of criminals would be near zero". The answer to crime in America is certainly not more violent cops.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

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I said I didn't want them acting that way, I did not say they all are. The ones that are should be held to account. You seem to be having an emotional reaction instead of reading, but I'll play along. If they were, I don't think "the recidivism rate of criminals would be near zero". The answer to crime in America is certainly not more violent cops.

What's the percentage of violent cops compared to the percentage of violent gun owners?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I agree with this. I don't want to live in a society where the police are punishment squads.

I must have missed where you put "acting" in the sentence.

 

[Epicenity]

What's the percentage of violent cops compared to the percentage of violent gun owners?

That seems irrelevant.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

That seems irrelevant.

I disagree. Discussions about police always result in generalizations, but discussions about gun owners don't. Why don't we make sweeping generalizations about the recent perpetrators of mass shootings? They are gun owners, right?

 

[thunderchicken]

There seems to be a few who are so morally superior and clearly are missing their opportunity to apply for a LE job.

 

[KellyinAvon]

What's the percentage of violent cops compared to the percentage of violent gun owners?

Point of order!! Are violent Cops included in violent gun owners? Are prohibited possessors who are (unlawfully) armed lumped in with the incredibly law-abiding gun owners who possess a LTCH or whatever the other State calls it?

We (humans) are all capable of violence. I'm not sure who said it, "Random violence doesn't solve anything. Well planned, well coordinated, well executed violence solves a lot of problems."

I did spend a lot of my life in an organization known for violence... not the random kind.

 

[Epicenity]

I disagree. Discussions about police always result in generalizations, but discussions about gun owners don't. Why don't we make sweeping generalizations about the recent perpetrators of mass shootings? They are gun owners, right?

I didn't make any sweeping generalizations, but again, I'll entertain your questions. One reason it would be more important is that the general population of gun owners do not have qualified immunity, and LEOs for the most part, do.

To answer your other question, I don't know about the ratio of violent police to violent gun owners, but I do read that the rates of domestic violence by LEOs is 2 to 4 time higher than the general population.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

To answer your other question, I don't know about the ratio of violent police to violent gun owners, but I do read that the rates of domestic violence by LEOs is 2 to 4 time higher than the general population.

Oh yeah, you're one of those "40%" people. That study was from one department, many years ago. If the ratio is 40% or 2 in 4, why aren't more cops arrested for DV? Kind of like the "cops have no duty to protect" ruling from 1981 I believe.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Point of order!! Are violent Cops included in violent gun owners? Are prohibited possessors who are (unlawfully) armed lumped in with the incredibly law-abiding gun owners who possess a LTCH or whatever the other State calls it?

We (humans) are all capable of violence. I'm not sure who said it, "Random violence doesn't solve anything. Well planned, well coordinated, well executed violence solves a lot of problems."

I did spend a lot of my life in an organization known for violence... not the random kind.

Good question. If they aren't, why aren't they?

 

[Creedmoor]

IBTL

 

[KellyinAvon]

Oh yeah, you're one of those "40%" people. That study was from one department, many years ago. If the ratio is 40% or 2 in 4, why aren't more cops arrested for DV? Kind of like the "cops have no duty to protect" ruling from 1981 I believe.

If I call for the cavalry, I'm going to want them to ride all the way over the hill to where ever the hell I am. That's because if I'm calling for the cavalry, the excrement has made physical contact with the hydro-electric powered, oscillating, air distribution device. And I want the cavalry to bring all the violence to bear they possibly can... that's because the excrement has made physical contact with the hydro-electric powered, oscillating, air distribution device.

DV is domestic violence, not distinguished visitor. I learned that DV means something completely different to the IMPD than the DoD not long ago.

We can live in a world where Riss v NYC, Warren v DC, Castle Rock v Gonzales, a bunch of Parkland Students v the Coward of Broward County exist; alongside the expectation of the cavalry to come riding over the hill when most needed.

And you know: if I'm in Marion County and I need violence brought on my behalf, I'm requesting you.