Greenwood mall shooting

[gregr]

Man, the more I have read about the 22-year old Hero, the more impressed with him I am. Just incredible that he reacted so quickly and unarguably saved countless lives.

 

[Bugzilla]

Given the timeline required to purchase the firearms, I don't see how it could be a case of copycatting. Mere coincidence, perhaps - or, not, depending on your amenability to certain conspiracy theories.

How many INGOers could set 2 rifles and a handgun on the floor, take a picture and it be pretty much identical to the one showing his guns on the floor?

 

[MinuteManMike]

Seems to me if the FBI somehow was coordinating this stuff they would be much better executed. The execution for this clown was terrible.. (thankfully).

"better executed"? Have you been paying attention the last 30 years?

At the Texas "Draw Mohammud" shooting the FBI handler was so inept he stayed there during and was detained by the locals.

 

[Bugzilla]

Man, the more I have read about the 22-year old Hero, the more impressed with him I am. Just incredible that he reacted so quickly and unarguably saved countless lives.

Conspiracy-Maybe he was the second guy!

 

[rooster]

"better executed"? Have you been paying attention the last 30 years?

At the Texas "Draw Mohammud" shooting the FBI handler was so inept he stayed there during and was detained by the locals.

You mean this one?

FBI Agent Goaded Garland Shooter to “Tear Up Texas,” Raising New Alarms About Bureau’s Methods

An undercover FBI agent egged on a would-be terrorist shortly before he opened fire on a Texas cartoon contest last year, raising new doubts about the bureau’s approach to cozying up to its targets.

theintercept.com

 

[Dean Weingarten]

One AR - the shorter one - on him with the Glock .357 Sig. Left the longer AR in the restroom in the backpack. Had four AR mags strapped onto his chest in a mag holder. See photo of him laying on restroom floor comparing it with one of several he posted earlier in the afternoon. It's at top or a Reddit thread in a Reddit mass shooter forum. Google (or Duck Duck Go) will find it almost immediately with a combination of his name and "Reddit". Be forewarned the photo of him deceased and tagged "DEAD" isn't retouched to fog over anything. The one of him alive is one of several that were on imgur showing his weapons and girded up to go to the mall. He linked to them his 4chan posting about being a good day to die. He's wearing the clothing he died in several hours later.

I'm very certain the FBI will unravel his phone and laptop. Their forensics ability is sophisticated and extensive. Those will undoubtedly reveal his state of mind . . . which appears to be on the surface - at the least - an isolated young man in deep depression with suicidal thoughts that were pushed to action by the eviction notice. Hopefully there will be follow-up when the details are better known.

John

Good analysis. For many young men, young adulthood is a difficult transition period. In the current culture, young men are villified and pushed to be feminized. The left works to demonize men. They call it toxic masculinity.

 

[bwframe]

Maybe someone should start new threads on Jesus and conspiracy theories related to this mass shooting?



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[AndreusMaximus]

Maybe someone should start new threads on Jesus and conspiracy theories related to this mass shooting?



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I'm trying to think of a nice way of saying this, but here goes...

Some of the points you made earlier in this thread I honestly sympathize with, and I kind of think people were giving you too hard of a time and could've listened better to what you where trying to point out.

That being said, for the guy who thinks being fired or not having a drivers license should be red flags for those looking for warning signs of a mass shooter to simply dismiss well-deserved skepticism of federal agencies as "conspiracy theories" and complain about the thread getting off-topic, well, that's got some irony too it.

 

[Route 45]

Maybe someone should start new threads on Jesus and conspiracy theories related to this mass shooting?



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You are ignoring the fact that jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

 

[jwamplerusa]

Ok hear me out here.

He had two rifles. He spent an hour waiting. Waiting for what? He destroyed his communication devices. Was he waiting for a second person? Was he waiting for his handler that of course was never gonna show? What’s with these people lately having multiple rifles? You can only shoot one per person……

See my earlier post regarding the butane cylinder in the oven. This and Highland Park have more hallmarks of terrorism (likely by a communist / leftist nut) than something like Uvalde.

We need someone trustworthy (sorry FBI, probably NOT you) to disclose what is on the GPM shooters laptop and phone. I am starting to get the whiffs of the weak and easily manipulated being herded into committing acts of terror. The Highland Park shooter's leftists leanings were all over social media (and his face). I would not be surprised to find something similar in this POS's background.

 

[jwamplerusa]

I'm very certain the FBI will unravel his phone and laptop. Their forensics ability is sophisticated and extensive.

I'm sorry @JAL that is not possible. I present to you... Hunter Biden's laptop.

 

[Route 45]

I wonder if there's a leftist forum where this is a vast right wing conspiracy set up by Trump to discredit gun control advocates by grooming an inept mall shooter and having him ambushed by a planted "armed citizen" who just so happens to have the skill to take out the mall shooter with precision and tactics that rival our special forces.

I can imagine the posts. "You're telling me 8 hits out of 10 at 40 yards with a mini Glock 9mm pistol in 15 seconds in a dynamic situation against a shooter armed with a rifle is just a run-of-the-mill armed citizen? Trained by grandpa? Who is grandpa, John Wick? The police and military don't even boast of those kind of hit rates."

Patiently waiting for the picture of the Greenwood PD car that was also at Sandy Hook.

 

[dudley0]

I'm sorry @JAL that is not possible. I present to you... Hunter Biden's laptop.

Wait a minute... you have Hunter's laptop?

 

[Keith_Indy]

I thought the phone was in the home toilet.

No problem, facts and non-facts always fly fast after these things.

Armed civilian shot Greenwood Park Mall suspect 8 times - Daily Journal

The preliminary autopsy results show the Greenwood Park Mall mass shooting suspect was shot eight times by a man police are calling an armed bystander.

dailyjournal.net

During this time, it is likely he was preparing for the shooting. Police say the shooter likely entered the mall with a SigSauer Model 400M 5.56 long rifle broken into pieces and stored in a bag that was left behind at the mall bathroom. Police also found two additional weapons, but only the rifle was used in the shooting. All three guns were legally purchased within the last two years, Ison said.

Officers also found a cell phone in a toilet in the bathroom, and police believe the shooter placed it there prior to opening fire, he said.

 

[Jaybird1980]

No problem, facts and non-facts always fly fast after these things.

Armed civilian shot Greenwood Park Mall suspect 8 times - Daily Journal

The preliminary autopsy results show the Greenwood Park Mall mass shooting suspect was shot eight times by a man police are calling an armed bystander.

dailyjournal.net

Yep, I completely missed that.

 

[DragonGunner]

I’m new to mass shooting detective work - explain the FBI handler, as in FBI is coordinating this? - I can believe it to an extent, but if that was the case I’d think getting rid of a laptop and phone leading up to an attack would be pretty easy…. Any random dumpster on his way to the mall I bet wasn’t ever searched….

Seems to me if the FBI somehow was coordinating this stuff they would be much better executed. The execution for this clown was terrible.. (thankfully).

Playing devils advocate… FBI agent is on internet talking to him and egging him on, and so fourth and so fourth. FBI monitoring situation, then in there minds when he is about to commit the crime or they have enough in him they arrest him and save the day as heroes. Remember Michigans Governor????? This time shooter jumped to fast, or said he was moving in to do it and oooops… FBI was on vacation and ooops didn’t see it quick enough to stop it…. Well at least they got all the evidence. Who knows ….. ?? We could do this all day and it’s a shame we have FBI that can’t be trusted unless your a total fool these days.

 

[DragonGunner]

I'm trying to think of a nice way of saying this, but here goes...

Some of the points you made earlier in this thread I honestly sympathize with, and I kind of think people were giving you too hard of a time and could've listened better to what you where trying to point out.

That being said, for the guy who thinks being fired or not having a drivers license should be red flags for those looking for warning signs of a mass shooter to simply dismiss well-deserved skepticism of federal agencies as "conspiracy theories" and complain about the thread getting off-topic, well, that's got some irony too it.

I took it as a joke…?

 

[Keith_Indy]

Oye, no wonder people don't trust the media, read the article I last posted more closely...

Aren't these people supposed to have editors?

Law enforcement has also not found any evidence of a note or message left behind on the shooter’s cell phone. The phone is currently in the custody of an FBI’s forensic team which is working to dry out the phone to recover information, Ison said.

Later...

The FBI took possession of the laptop and will attempt to extract data from it at their lab in Quantico, Virginia. It will take time for the agency to analyze the phone and the laptop, FBI Indianapolis Special Agent in Charge Herb Stapleton told reporters Monday. There’s no guarantee that data from the phone will be recovered, and for the laptop, analysts will have to review it to see what is technically possible for them to do, he said.

 

[BigRed]

How many INGOers could set 2 rifles and a handgun on the floor, take a picture and it be pretty much identical to the one showing his guns on the floor?

If an INGOer, there would be feet in the pic

 

[bwframe]

I'm trying to think of a nice way of saying this, but here goes...

Some of the points you made earlier in this thread I honestly sympathize with, and I kind of think people were giving you too hard of a time and could've listened better to what you where trying to point out.

That being said, for the guy who thinks being fired or not having a drivers license should be red flags for those looking for warning signs of a mass shooter to simply dismiss well-deserved skepticism of federal agencies as "conspiracy theories" and complain about the thread getting off-topic, well, that's got some irony too it.

We can certainly fire up that part of the conversation again, if you'd like? It's certainly relevant to this mass murderer and the majority of others. Should we not learn from the patterns of past psychopathic mass murderers?

Should friends and family of those who fall into the same parameters be concerned and on the watch to head off possible copycats that may decide mass murder suicide is the way to go for them?

We never even got into the fact that the covid lockdowns spurred a large downswing in mental health. Should this mental health degradation not be recognized, especially in this age group that is typically mass murderers?