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  • DoggyDaddy

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    the facts have been presented and dozens of challenges have been made and they all failed.
    When did this happen? Evidence was not allowed to be presented. It was shrugged off as having "no standing". No Congressional investigation was conducted, which could have gone a long way in either confirming or denying the claims of fraud, yet plenty of Congressional investigating was done on Trump for what we now know was "evidence" made up out of whole cloth and bought and paid for by the Democrats (Steele dossier anyone?). To quote your buddy... "C'mon, man!"
     

    BugI02

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    I'm not afraid of evidence of fraud, because there isn't any. Face it, enough Americans saw Trump for the undemocratic, hateful fraud that he is, and chose the lesser of two evils. The states that swung had elected D governors in the last cycle - it's logical for them to go D for president, especially against such a divisive figure. I absolutely believe the result - the facts have been presented and dozens of challenges have been made and they all failed.

    If Rs don't move away from a cult of personality and begin to focus on ideas and policy, they will be aged out of the picture.
    Another one pulls aside the mask. A moment of silence, please

    What if the ideas the republican electorate - you know, the people those politicians are supposed to represent - want to focus on are MAGA and America First?

    Spoiler alert: Liz Cheney and her ilk are DONE. Mitt Romney is not coming to your rescue. If you can't tolerate what the people want, step off and form the McCain Party or something. I think you forget that a record number of actual, legitimate, living voters wanted Trump a second time
     

    Chewie

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    I'm not afraid of evidence of fraud, because there isn't any. Face it, enough Americans saw Trump for the undemocratic, hateful fraud that he is, and chose the lesser of two evils. The states that swung had elected D governors in the last cycle - it's logical for them to go D for president, especially against such a divisive figure. I absolutely believe the result - the facts have been presented and dozens of challenges have been made and they all failed.

    If Rs don't move away from a cult of personality and begin to focus on ideas and policy, they will be aged out of the picture.

    Yep, I see you have your blinders on good and tight. There are lots of indications of fraud in too many places to go with out investigation. Investigations will either provide the evidence or it won't. You have to accept the fact that 6 months is a long time to bury or destroy the evidence.
    I guess if the evidence is not readily visible, the crime was never committed! Kind of like a murder, no evidence (other than a body) no crime! Lots of indications of foul play but that's all.
    It's not over till it is completely over. Let the chips fall where they may, but I am still curious why so many dems are fighting so hard against investigations! Sheep don't want to know but thinking people do.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Whats revealing to me is that the people maligning the audit suddenly have an entirely different standard of proof than they insisted on using in regard to election irregularities.. With election irregularities, it was "it isn't proof until a court decides it's ironclad proof". Now "red flags" are all that is needed to prove the audit is a sham.
    Yeah. False.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Are you convinced thd evidence will be squelched or do you honestly believe in the most fictional election in US history?
    Not as delusional as thinking 80+ million people voted for a presidential candidate. Much less biden.
    The sad thing is, is if I thought what you guys thought, I’d be absolutely furious. Hell, I’d probably been in DC Jan. 6. It would be like literally watching your nation go corrupt. ...even sadder than that, is despite believing that occurred, is being naive enough to think “Oh well, we’ll fix it for next time.” Do you really believe that???
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    If Rs don't move away from a cult of personality and begin to focus on ideas and policy, they will be aged out of the picture.
    They did focus on ideas and policy. And those ideas and policies were being implemented quite successfully. Moreso than in any administration other than Reagan's in my recent memory. It seems that some want them to go back to their losing strategy of agreeing with the Democrat's ideas and policies once they're in office.
     

    Tombs

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    The sad thing is, is if I thought what you guys thought, I’d be absolutely furious. Hell, I’d probably been in DC Jan. 6. It would be like literally watching your nation go corrupt. ...even sadder than that, is despite believing that occurred, is being naive enough to think “Oh well, we’ll fix it for next time.” Do you really believe that???

    No, I don't believe it will be fixed without significant public intervention.
    I also don't think a recount or audit by the same class of people will mean anything.

    In the end the only options available to me won't mean much until such time as a significant portion of the population decides it matters enough. So, look after me and mine and try to hedge against the insanity as best I can.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    No, I don't believe it will be fixed without significant public intervention.
    I also don't think a recount or audit by the same class of people will mean anything.

    In the end the only options available to me won't mean much until such time as a significant portion of the population decides it matters enough. So, look after me and mine and try to hedge against the insanity as best I can.
    Bro, it’s like how much can you stand, if you truly, honestly believe the stuff that you say you do? It’s honestly baffling.
     

    buckwacker

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    How does one rebut something that has no basis in fact whatsoever, from someone who has no grasp of the facts, nor any apparent willingness to learn them? His statement was so over-the-top loony that no amount of fact or logic will change his mind.

    Just saw this quote from Mitch McConnell regarding the Jan. 6 commission proposal: "I think at the heart of this recommendation by the Democrats is that they would like to continue to debate things that occurred in the past". Spoken without irony, no doubt.
    Should be an easy rebuttal for you then. Give it a whirl.
     

    1DOWN4UP

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    Ingomike

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    NO!!! I was told on INGO that could not happen! Some say I was reading bad sources, looking at you jamil, and others said it was just a conspiracy...
     

    BugI02

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    Bro, it’s like how much can you stand, if you truly, honestly believe the stuff that you say you do? It’s honestly baffling.
    So, what did you do about Trump during the Trump years - you know, if you really believed the stuff you were saying

    Survey says: Stir up **** on INGO and then crack a Zima
     

    Ingomike

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    1. "President Trump received more votes than any previous incumbent seeking reelection. He got 11 million more votes than in 2016, the third largest rise in support ever for an incumbent."

    2. "Trump’s vote increased so much because, according to exit polls, he performed far better with many key demographic groups. Ninety-five percent of Republicans voted for him."

    3. "He earned the highest share of all minority votes for a Republican since 1960. Trump grew his support among black voters by 50 percent over 2016... Joe Biden’s black support fell well below 90 percent, the level below which Democratic presidential candidates usually lose."

    4. "Trump increased his share of the national Hispanic vote to 35 percent. With 60 percent or less of the national Hispanic vote, it is arithmetically impossible for a Democratic presidential candidate to win Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico."

    5. "Bellwether states swung further in Trump’s direction than in 2016. Florida, Ohio and Iowa each defied America’s media polls with huge wins for Trump. Since 1852, only Richard Nixon has lost the electoral college after winning this trio"...

    6. "Midwestern states Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin always swing in the same direction as Ohio and Iowa, their regional peers. Ohio likewise swings with Florida. Current tallies show that, outside of a few cities, the Rust Belt swung in Trump’s direction."

    7. "Yet, Biden leads in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin because of an apparent avalanche of black votes in Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee. Biden’s ‘winning’ margin was derived almost entirely from such voters in these cities"...

    8. "... as coincidentally his black vote spiked only in exactly the locations necessary to secure victory. He did not receive comparable levels of support among comparable demographic groups in comparable states, which is highly unusual for the presidential victor."

    9. "We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes."

    10. "Victorious presidential candidates, especially challengers, usually have down-ballot coattails; Biden did not. The Republicans held the Senate and enjoyed a ‘red wave’ in the House, where they gained a large number of seats while winning all 27 toss-up contests."

    11. "Trump’s party did not lose a single state legislature and actually made gains at the state level."

    12. "Another anomaly is found in the comparison between the polls and non-polling metrics. The latter include: party registrations trends; candidates’ respective primary votes; candidate enthusiasm; social media followings; broadcast and digital media ratings; online searches".


    Not proof but certainly great questions can be asked from this.
     
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