Rioters point weapons at motorist in Indy

[Hoosierkav]

(c) As used in this section, "police radio" means a radio that is capable of sending or receiving signals transmitted on frequencies assigned by the Federal Communications Commission for police emergency purposes

But, it is receiving the signal or is it receiving something else that is actually receiving and transmitting the signal? Your app isn't actually receiving the signal transmitted on the FCC frequency. It's receiving it via the cell tower via the app's broadcast.

But, we aren't lawyers, so it's probably just an academic discussion.

 

[nonobaddog]

But, it is receiving the signal or is it receiving something else that is actually receiving and transmitting the signal? Your app isn't actually receiving the signal transmitted on the FCC frequency. It's receiving it via the cell tower via the app's broadcast.

But, we aren't lawyers, so it's probably just an academic discussion.

This could depend on how one reads and interprets the law.

If you look at it from a signal-centric view. The "signal" really is sent over a carrier frequency assigned by the Federal Communications Commission for police emergency purposes. This qualifies the "signal" as protected under the law. If this same "signal" is then digitized and sent using some other protocol, such as through a cell tower, it is still the same signal. Wouldn't it have the same protection?

If you look at from a carrier-centric point of view. The "signal" is not being received while being transmitted on the FCC emergency frequency carrier. If it is only protected while on that specific carrier then the law would not apply when the "signal" is transmitted over other frequencies or digital protocols.

The signal-centric view makes the most sense to me but I have no idea how this would go down in reality.

 

[larcat]

Sweet, we're doing pedantic. I'll paste less this time:

(A) while committing a crime

Like, say, anything you might get pulled over for.

The statute specifically says that you have to be using it to avoid detection by law enforcement.

Either words mean something, or they don't.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Sweet, we're doing pedantic. I'll paste less this time:



Like, say, anything you might get pulled over for.

Didnt do a very good job using it to avoid detection if you got pulled over while using it.

 

[larcat]

I'm much more confident about my ability to close the tab of a web based scanner aggregator than to dispose of a physical scanner unit between lights behind me for doing 6 over the speed limit on 65. Anyways, done with the slap fight.

Your cell phone and app technically meets the definition of "police radio." Because a cell phone is, in effect, a radio of sorts.

Just sayin...

(c) As used in this section, "police radio" means a radio that is capable of sending or receiving signals transmitted on frequencies assigned by the Federal Communications Commission for police emergency purposes and that:

(1) can be installed, maintained, or operated in a vehicle; or
(2) can be operated while it is being carried by an individual.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Well a cell phone doesn’t transmit on frequencies assigned to police emergency use.
I think we are getting liberal with the definition of a police radio here.

The last thing we want is anyone getting liberal in any way shape or form.

 

[nonobaddog]

Sweet, we're doing pedantic. I'll paste less this time:



Like, say, anything you might get pulled over for.

You can get pulled over for a traffic infraction, many of which are not considered crimes.

 

[larcat]

I can't argue that

Didnt do a very good job using it to avoid detection if you got pulled over while using it.

 

[larcat]

Hrm. No idea if crime excludes infractions or not

You can get pulled over for a traffic infraction, many of which are not considered crimes.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Anyways back to OP... I don’t see law enforcement doing anything about this. Saying it’s “under investigation” is a way to keep people calm while it’s swept under the rug until the next outrage.

You point a gun at me you better be willing to use it, and you better be quick on the trigger. When you’ve presented deadly force, I’ll not wait to see if you’re trying to intimidate me or plan on using it. This is the problem with people who aren’t “gun owners”. Sure, they possess a gun, but they aren’t gun owners per say. They don’t take the time to learn why we own guns, and the safety that comes with it. Not just the safe handling, that’s only one part of it, but the way you conduct yourself in public, the way you train, and the self control to not grab for it every time you disagree with something. They think people own guns for intimidation because they’re intimidated by them. So when they get a firearm, they use it for that reason. It isn’t for intimidation, and anyone using it to intimidate people will eventually be faced with that reality. It’s to protect me and my family, and some moron aiming a gun at me trying to intimidate me is going to have a rude awakening that coming home to my family is more important than some stupid words painted on a road.

I support more gun owners. Our constitutional rights shouldn’t be delegated to a particular party, but if you’re going to get into firearm ownership, please, for your own safety and the safety of everyone else, understand the reasoning for it and take some classes!! Stop trying to intimidate people because it’s going to get yourself killed, and I don’t think any of us want to kill anybody, but at the end of the day we all wanna come home to our families.

 

[printcraft]

(c) As used in this section, "police radio" means a radio that is capable of sending or receiving signals transmitted on frequencies assigned by the Federal Communications Commission for police emergency purposes

A cell phone does neither.

 

[JiujitsuHound]

I keep thinking about finding myself in this scenario, and to be honest, why would anyone wait around to see if they are bluffing? If you have to react and there are additional combatants around, how do you get your family out of danger?

Lots of serious questions to think about right now and this should get all of us to work on our tactics and training.

 

[PistolBob]

Mayor Hogsett woke up this morning to his 142nd and 143rd homicide. He hasn't got time to have the IMPD go out and arrest a couple of his voters. Even though they have names and addresses. His plan for the destruction of Marion County is going as planned.

 

[Route 45]

A cell phone does neither.

If you are listening to police broadcasts on a cell phone app, you are receiving signals that have been transmitted on police frequencies. The conversion to cell phone frequencies is simply a crossband function.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Wouldn't a search warrant be needed to even know the app exist on a cell phone?
Either way I think it's a bunch of talk about nothing.
otherwise they would be locking up the protesters using them

 

[STEEL CORE]

Boss Hogg doesn't seem to care about BKB, Or BKW, however, if this truck driver would have hurt of killed one of his legal to vote voters, than yes I agree that driver would be toast.

 

[Route 45]

Either way I think it's a bunch of talk about nothing.

You must be new here. Welcome to INGO.

 

[Jaybird1980]

You must be new here. Welcome to INGO.

 

[foszoe]

The assumption memory loss is bad?

Or is the assumption that memory loss is bad?

Or is the assumption a Holy Day?
Or is it that we are close to a holiday?

Is this weekend labor day weekend already?

Wow summer has really flown by.

Fly? No way, not in this day and age.
Oh I am old enough to drink.
Drinking causes memory loss.

 

[foszoe]

I almost agreed with you last night....but then I remembered who I was going to agree with and started drinking.

My initial is yeah you are right...it hurts to say so let me take another sip so I can suffer memory loss....

BUT the signal was originally transmitted and you are now listening to it. So the question really becomes do I want to be the TEST case for your interpretation. I decided no. How about you?

A cell phone does neither.