You guys aren’t tracking what I’m trying to get across, so I’ll stop here. But in response, the video I saw, Wilson was the only one displaying good gun handling techniques, one guy shoves his loaded pistol in his armpit so he can dial the damned phone?
I hear you and I think your point with the UPS Driver and NYPD are valid. Good gun handling is necessary and it does not always happen. Those are not things that are properly stressed in training of all sorts. I think better training can solve that. My initial point was that the good guys did not shoot each other.
As far as bad gun handling in the church. Judging who got swept by muzzles in the video can be tough to accurately judge. I have been at matches in person where no one was swept or muzzled but video posted later certainly looked like it happened. In those cases I know what the facts were. In the church case the facts are tougher to know. It sure looks like some people got swept, and that should not happen and is unacceptable. We should all learn from it. The folks in the church did better than the police with the UPS driver or the NYPD. We civilians are capable.
On a slightly different note. I hope you keep participating in the discussion. We are all better when we hear viewpoints that differ from our own. If we all agree on everything what is the point of a discussion.