When you do it on an empty gun, it isn’t cushioning the impact by the stripping of another round. So the impact is greater. In a well built gun will this damage it, no. I still wouldn’t just do it over and over for no reason.
never drop the slide on an already chambered round.
When you do it on an empty gun, it isn’t cushioning the impact by the stripping of another round.
So the impact is greater. In a well built gun will this damage it, no. I still wouldn’t just do it over and over for no reason.
never drop the slide on an already chambered round.
According to the guys I talked with at Nighthawk Custom it can damage the sear\hammer engagement surfaces. When it is chambering a round from the magazine there is a cushioning effect on the hammer and sear. Just as an aside, on a 1911 or anything else it is bad practice to insert a round in the chamber and let the slide go into battery. it can damage or break the extractor.
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Yep thisThis 100%. It has nothing to do with the locking lugs, barrel or frame lugs. It's the sear nose and the hammer hooks that you're battering the snot out of.
Two schools of thought on this:
1. It's NEVER okay to do it.
2. It's okay to do it on rack grade, non-modified 1911s but never do it on anything with matched or prepared sear/hammer engagement surfaces.
I'd just stick with NOT slamming it home on ANY gun. I hate going to a shop and seeing Johnny HuckleDuck sitting there, slamming the slide home on ANY pistol because he thinks it makes him look cool or an expert. It's up there with the "Cagney Flip" of snapping a cylinder closed on a revolver. Can you do it? Sure. Is it good for the gun? Long term no.
never drop the slide on an already chambered round.
I hope I'm not jacking the thread here but I have to ask: is this a good rule of thumb for all pistols, or 1911's specifically? For example, after manually loading a round into the chamber of a Glock, should you drop the slide with full force, or should you ride it home to lessen the force? I have always dropped the slide on all my guns but I don't own any 1911's (yet!)
I hope I'm not jacking the thread here but I have to ask: is this a good rule of thumb for all pistols, or 1911's specifically? For example, after manually loading a round into the chamber of a Glock, should you drop the slide with full force, or should you ride it home to lessen the force? I have always dropped the slide on all my guns but I don't own any 1911's (yet!)
The proper way to load your gun is to put a loaded mag in the gun, then release the slide, feeding a round into the chamber. I always top off the mag and this confirms that a round was successfully chambered in the gun and I don't have to do any of those tactical press checks.Question....why would you drop a round in the chamber and then drop the slide on it. Most every gun I have messed with is not designed for that.
The extractor is not intended to be pushed over the lip of the round. This damages it.
Question....why would you drop a round in the chamber and then drop the slide on it. Most every gun I have messed with is not designed for that.
The extractor is not intended to be pushed over the lip of the round. This damages it.
The proper way to load your gun is to put a loaded mag in the gun, then release the slide, feeding a round into the chamber. I always top off the mag and this confirms that a round was successfully chambered in the gun and I don't have to do any of those tactical press checks.
To be completely honest I never thought of the stress that would put on the extractor. that makes perfect sense though. I would do it that way to put a round in the chamber, then put a full magazine in, so that it's loaded full mag + 1 round. It's the way I was taught and the way I've seen it done repeatedly from several instructors and RSO's -- incorrectly it seems. I had no idea i was putting undue stress on the extractor. thank you for the valuable info!
To be completely honest I never thought of the stress that would put on the extractor. that makes perfect sense though. I would do it that way to put a round in the chamber, then put a full magazine in, so that it's loaded full mag + 1 round. It's the way I was taught and the way I've seen it done repeatedly from several instructors and RSO's -- incorrectly it seems. I had no idea i was putting undue stress on the extractor. thank you for the valuable info!
Guns with bending extractors it's an absolute no-no because you have to bend the part to do it. guns with articulating (hinged, pivoting) extractors it's a no-no but not as bad. As you've seen it can be done, maybe even many times, but there are a lot of things that will tolerate abuse for a period before breaking.
If you look at the breech-face of a gun you can see whether it can be closed on a chambered round. If there is a raised surface all around the rim (preventing the round from sliding), it's OK. If there's a groove along the path of movement of a round, it's meant to slide up under the extractor, not for the extractor to snap over it.
A couple examples I have from the last time this came up: https://imgur.com/a/jPiXl
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