Pastors wife shot in Indy.

[srad]

Reminder that Jalen Watson was on parole for burglary when he and Taylor committed these crimes against the Blackburn's.

 

[GIJEW]

I recall a saying some branch of the military uses, to the effect that (paraphrased) 'forgiveness is not our job, but the Lord's. Our job is to arrange the meeting.'

I didn't read the article a few posts up, but it seems to me from what y'all are saying that this man, being a man of God, has reversed the above: His job is not to arrange the meeting, but to remove the hate from his heart, akin to the advice people get who hold grudges: they only hurt the one holding them.

I'm not sure I could do that. I rather think I'd enjoy being the one to push the button/throw the breaker/pull the trigger/whatever to send the dirtbags straight to hell.

THEN I would consider forgiving them- once I knew they could never harm another living soul.

Exactly. Repentance and justice are prerequisites for forgiveness. Without those, forgiveness just becomes tolerance of evil that enables more of it.

Personally, without repentance, they can get a full measure of justice not get forgiveness.

 

[churchmouse]

Reminder that Jalen Watson was on parole for burglary when he and Taylor committed these crimes against the Blackburn's.

In the front door and right out the back. This crap has got to stop.

 

[Joseph]

This is disturbing. So sad

 

[HoughMade]

So you're all familiar enough with the admissible evidence against all three such that you are positive that testimony from a direct eyewitness is unnecessary against the other two and you know that all of them did each and every evil deed in this mess equally. Impressive. Admittedly, I haven't read everything there is to read about this case.

 

[Tactically Fat]

So you're all familiar enough with the admissible evidence against all three such that you are positive that testimony from a direct eyewitness is unnecessary against the other two and you know that all of them did each and every evil deed in this mess equally. Impressive. Admittedly, I haven't read everything there is to read about this case.

Ah. I see you're new here. Welcome to INGO!

 

[chipbennett]

The Marion County prosecutor is too preoccupied with worrying about lawful citizens carrying firearms with or without a state-issued permission slip. Ain't nobody got time to worry about violent criminals preying on the innocent.

 

[KellyinAvon]

The Marion County prosecutor is too preoccupied with worrying about lawful citizens carrying firearms with or without a state-issued permission slip. Ain't nobody got time to worry about violent criminals preying on the innocent.

No kidding, if pot was legal Curry would've been 0-for the Grundy crew.

 

[IndyDave1776]

In the front door and right out the back. This crap has got to stop.

Indeed so. A .451 hole right between the eyes should do nicely.

 

[GIJEW]

The Marion County prosecutor is too preoccupied with worrying about lawful citizens carrying firearms with or without a state-issued permission slip. Ain't nobody got time to worry about violent criminals preying on the innocent.

I knew that curry is anti-gun(owner) but I hadn't heard that the prosecutor's office was looking to make "examples" out of people who used guns in self defense. What did I miss?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I knew that curry is anti-gun(owner) but I hadn't heard that the prosecutor's office was looking to make "examples" out of people who used guns in self defense. What did I miss?

Nothing. Just people talking out their backside, as usual.

No kidding, if pot was legal Curry would've been 0-for the Grundy crew.

Well, not exactly. They didn't get the big dog, though. However, there's only so much you can do when witnesses fall off, and when the court system has become a Byzantine maze of ever changing case law. It's all about suppression and keeping information out. The defense knows their guy did it in most every case, so they have decided their job is to keep the facts out since they can't contest them. More prosecutors working the case wouldn't matter. A reboot of the system and a cooperative community (and better informed jurors with less CSI tv time) would matter.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Nothing. Just people talking out their backside, as usual.



Well, not exactly. They didn't get the big dog, though. However, there's only so much you can do when witnesses fall off, and when the court system has become a Byzantine maze of ever changing case law. It's all about suppression and keeping information out. The defense knows their guy did it in most every case, so they have decided their job is to keep the facts out since they can't contest them. More prosecutors working the case wouldn't matter. A reboot of the system and a cooperative community (and better informed jurors with less CSI tv time) would matter.

A cooperative community may be a few generations away. A revolving door system won't help make the community more cooperative, I don't know how much is "code" and how much is observation. My beef with Curry on handguns comes from his testimony on 7 Sept at the Statehouse, it won't go away ever.

 

[churchmouse]

A cooperative community may be a few generations away. A revolving door system won't help make the community more cooperative, I don't know how much is "code" and how much is observation. My beef with Curry on handguns comes from his testimony on 7 Sept at the Statehouse, it won't go away ever.

Bingo. Curry is a turd.

 

[Vigilant]

So you're all familiar enough with the admissible evidence against all three such that you are positive that testimony from a direct eyewitness is unnecessary against the other two and you know that all of them did each and every evil deed in this mess equally. Impressive. Admittedly, I haven't read everything there is to read about this case.

Does it matter if they each did it? Doesn’t a death during the commission of a felony put them all up for murder?

 

[churchmouse]

Does it matter if they each did it? Doesn’t a death during the commission of a felony put them all up for murder?

I would hope so. With no recourse there will be no justice

 

[chipbennett]

Nothing. Just people talking out their backside, as usual.

Whoever "people" are, don't count me among them.

?Constitutional carry? gun debate draws opinions at Statehouse | WISH-TV

Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said this year more than 100 people have been arrested in the county for carrying a handgun without a permit and about half of them were charged with other serious crimes, too.


Some lawmakers said the permitting process does not stop criminals from getting a gun. Curry said it was still vital.


“We require people to get a driver’s license; some people drive without a license,” he said.


“That does not mean we eliminate the prohibitions we have against that.”

https://www.indystar.com/story/news...igned-get-rid-handgun-carry-license/94345846/

But some law enforcement officials say getting rid of the licensing process will hamper efforts to get illegal guns off the streets.


"Permitting serves a legitimate purpose in terms of denying the right to carry a handgun to certain individuals," Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said. "It also serves a very practical purpose for us in that it provides us with one mechanism for tracking where a handgun has been."


His office has filed more than 1,000 charges of carrying a handgun without a license this year.


"There are any number of scenarios that play out probably every week that start with an officer determining an individual is carrying a handgun without a license," Curry said. "That could be where someone’s involved in a traffic stop, for example, and an initial pat-down for officer safety determines the person has a handgun on them. It could and frequently does then lead to a search warrant for a vehicle and then a discovery of narcotics."


Curry, a Democrat, said the renewed effort to roll back gun control measures at the Statehouse is disappointing.


"It is clearly not an unnecessary hoop," he said of the licensing requirement. "For us, it’s just beyond discouraging that, in our mind, the legislature keeps going the wrong way on gun issues. To me, the fundamental question is: What purpose does this serve other than just grandstanding?"

Someone is talking out of his backside. And Curry coming out from that end really, really stinks.

 

[GREEN607]

You think forgiveness eliminates consequences?

It's a matter of letting hate go for him.

This has got to be the saddest thread I've come across on INGO.... that is to say, the initial event, Amanda Grace's rape and murder. And altho I make every attempt to understand the heart of Davey.... the forgiveness and all.... I fear that too many people whom have lived the life that Christ would have us live sometimes take the lessons of the Bible just a bit too far. We are not expected, by God, to be perfect... altho I suppose 'forgiveness' is a personal matter to each child of God. Davey certainly doesn't want his everlasting life to be segmented by the hate he must feel.... and I understand that.

But allow me to impart here, what my Dad, who raised a family of 6 in the church, told me at age 16.... when I was beginning to make friends with the wrong crowd of older teens.

"Every action we make, has consequences. And forgiveness is something Christians give to others, at God's command. But here's the 'truth'. Example- God views suicide as a sin. Maybe the worst sin, as you are throwing away the breath of Life that God gave you. So, you can throw yourself off the roof of a twenty-story building, and on the way down, ask God for forgiveness. Being a loving God, He will likely forgive you. But you are still going to hit the bottom."

 

[CHCRandy]

Reminder that Jalen Watson was on parole for burglary when he and Taylor committed these crimes against the Blackburn's.

And he was the suspect in another rape a week before. He should have never been on the street.

If this was my loved one........I would not stop until they were all Jack Ruby'd. End of story. Screw forgiveness.

 

[churchmouse]

And he was the suspect in another rape a week before. He should have never been on the street.

If this was my loved one........I would not stop until they were all Jack Ruby'd. End of story. Screw forgiveness.

Be near impossible to forgive especially this situation. A saint would be tested to the very limits. Straight up old testament stuff here.

 

[tbhausen]

So how many of you actually expect this guy to sing like a canary and put the others away for good? I’m skeptical.

In this case, I hope the snitch gets more than just stitches. I hope the street somehow gets to him, no matter how long it may take.