Additionally, if you have a CCW from one of the states that allows it, you can skip the NICS.
aka the 'gunshow loophole' :rolleyesedit:Sorry but your info is incorrect ,,,, most dealers at the 1500 don't even look at your carry license anymore, and all purchases through a FFL dealer get the call in. Only way to get around it would be a face to face with one of the hundreds of owners walking around, looking to sell or trade.
aka the 'gunshow loophole'
Perhaps this is how the dealers are choosing to do business; I don't know, as I've not been to the 1500. My information is correct, however, as per ATF Online - Sale of firearms to aliens admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visaSorry but your info is incorrect ,,,, most dealers at the 1500 don't even look at your carry license anymore, and all purchases through a FFL dealer get the call in. Only way to get around it would be a face to face with one of the hundreds of owners walking around, looking to sell or trade.
Now that's possible- I don't know on that one. I'll see if I can find out and you do likewise. If anyone does come up with an answer, let's post the verifying link so we can all see it, too.I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that Indiana State Law requires the FFLs to do the background checks. It does not matter where your carry permit is from, its IC that requires it. It used to be that carry permits were substitutes, but that was changed in the early 2000's (I think).
Brady Exemption Concealed weapons permit holders in Indiana are not exempt from background checks when purchasing a firearm, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) chart that outlines those permits that qualify as alternatives to the federal Brady Act. Please note that ATF’s exempt status determination for a given state is subject to change without notice.
Under federal law, persons who have been issued state permits to purchase or possess firearms are exempt from background checks if those permits were issued: 1) within the previous five years in the state in which the transfer is to take place; and 2) after an authorized government official has conducted a background investigation, including a search of the NICS database, to verify that possession of a firearm would not be unlawful. 18 U.S.C. § 922(t)(3), 27 C.F.R. § 478.102(d).
Although Indiana Code Annotated § 35-47-2.5-1 specifically excludes Indiana residents licensed to carry handguns from the handgun sales requirements of Chapter 35-47-2.5, the Indiana State Police have stated that this statute became inoperative on October 1, 2003, when Indiana licenses to carry a handgun ceased being an alternative to background checks under the federal Brady Act.
Oh yeah, all kinds of sense. (sarcasm off) Seriously, though, that's why I was saying to use a UT CCW or one of the other 20 states that BATFE does still recognize as an alternative. IIRC, the part where we "aren't up to Fed standards" is the fact that ISP checks your state-level record but not NICS when a 01FFL calls in your purchase, meaning we have to pass two levels of background check for a gun purchase and three (at least) for a LTC.This chart:
NRA-ILA :: Federal Gun Laws
and this forum:
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-39358.html
The BATFE doesn't accept it anymore because the state requirements to get the LTCH are not up to the Federal Standards.
Makes a lot of sense really :rolleyesedit: