James Yeager - The Martial Art of Guns

[jeremy]

Not really what?
He isn't a strong personality? You will not be better off? It isn't the bottom line? They are not near the top of a short list? You will not become a better fighter if you attend one of their schools? Not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just not sure what you disagreeing with.

I am not going to be drug into a Mud Slinging Contest Doc...

If you want to know my opinions I can PM you if you would like...

 

[greyhound47]

TR wasn't the school with a photographer sitting in between the targets at a pistol range are they? Anyone remember that?

 

[shooter521]

TR wasn't the school with a photographer sitting in between the targets at a pistol range are they? Anyone remember that?

 

[WETSU]

Yeager has haters. That means he's doing something right.

As far as the Edinburg ambush video. Jeremy knows what happened there, and he is being respectful. So does Shay. So do I. Frame by frame.

All three KIA were hit in the first sweep from the PKM. 1 headshot and and 2 femoral bleeds. It was all over before the good guys got out of the cars. Yeager got out, returned fire. When his team mate exited, he was told to "move!". As in, "you go, I'll cover you". Like we trained to do. It was SOP (bound across to the other road and commandeer another car) and thats what they trained to do for an IA-react to contact, dead car. He bound back and got small, talked to his mates to ID targets, waited for their bound and popped smoke to cover them. It was all over by then.

That battle was lost before it ever started. The team leader (the jackass with the MP5) made huge mistakes in how he ran that detail. Period. And it got men killed.

People say, why didn't they drive forward, outta the kill zone? Really, can you tell from that grainy video why they were stopped? Further down the road, the US Army had the road blocked. Humvees with jumpy soldiers and M2s. You gonna rip off a bunch of rounds and then approach that roadblock at full speed? Also, the hard car (benz) was inoperable.

Anyway. Guys who know whats up, know whats up. That OP wasn't Northen Ireland. It wasn't Vietnam. It wasn't Desert Storm 1, or Panama. It wasn't a military OP. It was a EP run that got ambushed.

I've known Yeager almost as long as Shay. We are friends. I still instruct for him. He knows a lot about his subject matter and most importantly, he knows how to instruct. I know a lot of tier one guys who cannot teach their way out of a paper bag. Good trigger pullers, bad at understanding the dynamics of adult learning etc. Yeager can do both.

As others have said, he is a strong personality. He has haters. I wish I had as many haters. I only have a handful, I gotta step up my game.

 

[jdhaines]

I have to admit I would take a TR Course before I would take an NRA Course...

I have to admit I would take any TR course before I would take another NRA course.

 

[the1kidd03]

Yeager has haters. That means he's doing something right.

As far as the Edinburg ambush video. Jeremy knows what happened there, and he is being respectful. So does Shay. So do I. Frame by frame.

All three KIA were hit in the first sweep from the PKM. 1 headshot and and 2 femoral bleeds. It was all over before the good guys got out of the cars. Yeager got out, returned fire. When his team mate exited, he was told to "move!". As in, "you go, I'll cover you". Like we trained to do. It was SOP (bound across to the other road and commandeer another car) and thats what they trained to do for an IA-react to contact, dead car. He bound back and got small, talked to his mates to ID targets, waited for their bound and popped smoke to cover them. It was all over by then.

That battle was lost before it ever started. The team leader (the jackass with the MP5) made huge mistakes in how he ran that detail. Period. And it got men killed.

People say, why didn't they drive forward, outta the kill zone? Really, can you tell from that grainy video why they were stopped? Further down the road, the US Army had the road blocked. Humvees with jumpy soldiers and M2s. You gonna rip off a bunch of rounds and then approach that roadblock at full speed? Also, the hard car (benz) was inoperable.

Anyway. Guys who know whats up, know whats up. That OP wasn't Northen Ireland. It wasn't Vietnam. It wasn't Desert Storm 1, or Panama. It wasn't a military OP. It was a EP run that got ambushed.

I've known Yeager almost as long as Shay. We are friends. I still instruct for him. He knows a lot about his subject matter and most importantly, he knows how to instruct. I know a lot of tier one guys who cannot teach their way out of a paper bag. Good trigger pullers, bad at understanding the dynamics of adult learning etc. Yeager can do both.

As others have said, he is a strong personality. He has haters. I wish I had as many haters. I only have a handful, I gotta step up my game.

Thanks for the clarification of a video.....you couldn't really see him after moving, nor really tell anything that's going on very clearly.......I thought I saw some smoke popped, but it's a horrible video

 

[Shay]

I knew him in Iraq...
I knew his Team in Iraq...

You make several bold statements there. I have kept from slinging mud against Mr Yeager here in this thread, as that is not the intent of this thread. Why don't you not throw mud yourself you might just bust a Window in your Glass House...

And this is why I don't usually post in Yeager threads.

I wasn't talking about you. But go ahead and make it about you if it makes you feel better.

 

[Britton]

James is James, you either consider him a good instructor or you don't. If your unsure and would like to take the opportunity to find out for yourself we invite you to the Fort Wayne area for some training with Tactical Response at the end of summer. I believe James still has a money back guarantee if your unhappy with the level of training provided.

 

[the1kidd03]

James is James, you either consider him a good instructor or you don't. If your unsure and would like to take the opportunity to find out for yourself we invite you to the Fort Wayne area for some training with Tactical Response at the end of summer. I believe James still has a money back guarantee if your unhappy with the level of training provided.

Since you're advertising it...LOL...what are the classes/curriculum offered those dates?

 

[Britton]

Well, Jahred is working on it. Don't want to muddle the thread, but I am sure in the next week or two it will be posted. I will say our goal is to bring to NE Indiana a wide selection of nationally recognized trainers and training companies.

 

[teddy12b]

James is James, you either consider him a good instructor or you don't. If your unsure and would like to take the opportunity to find out for yourself we invite you to the Fort Wayne area for some training with Tactical Response at the end of summer. I believe James still has a money back guarantee if your unhappy with the level of training provided.

Have you got an email list for that training. One of the biggest hurdles to training that I have is the traveling. I'd like some good local training. Where I shoot at I can't really put myself under stress with other people there.

 

[jeremy]

And this is why I don't usually post in Yeager threads.

I wasn't talking about you. But go ahead and make it about you if it makes you feel better.

Not attempting to do that. You know I can train wreck a thread, I have yet to attempt that here.

You made the blanket statement, I just pointed out some of us might know what we are talking about. I tried to not be rude in my comments about it as well, even when prompted to do that.

I am not attempting to **** on your leg anymore that you were trying to **** on mine.

 

[Britton]

"Have you got an email list for that training. One of the biggest hurdles to training that I have is the traveling. I'd like some good local training. Where I shoot at I can't really put myself under stress with other people there."

You best bet is to stay on top of AGS facebook page. Armed Dynamics and Gomez International already have locked in dates. If you guys have question please go to AGS section and ask there. Prefer to not hi-jack this thread. The Mods are vicious around here.

Edited to say I don't want Jahred to accuse me of stealing his idea, this one was all his.

 

[the1kidd03]

Well, Jahred is working on it. Don't want to muddle the thread, but I am sure in the next week or two it will be posted. I will say our goal is to bring to NE Indiana a wide selection of nationally recognized trainers and training companies.

I'm not close..but just thought it'd be a good opportunity to inform for future readers who might be interested.

Ayoob goes to Illinois a lot

 

[AGS Armament]

I will be working hard to bring a wide variety of good trainers to NE Indiana. I have a list of guys whom I have trained with and a list of those I want to train with. As I get AGS up and running we'll be really pushing the training, it's important to me to offer this to people in our area.

 

[teddy12b]

I will be working hard to bring a wide variety of good trainers to NE Indiana. I have a list of guys whom I have trained with and a list of those I want to train with. As I get AGS up and running we'll be really pushing the training, it's important to me to offer this to people in our area.

I just "liked" you on facebook, but don't get any ideas, LOL. I'll be watching and checking the updates.

 

[Britton]

I just "liked" you on facebook, but don't get any ideas, LOL. I'll be watching and checking the updates.

I am just glad you both were Army and not Navy.

 

[teddy12b]

I am just glad you both were Army and not Navy.

LMAO! OMG is that ever the truth! I got stories of being around SeaBee's and they were um...... no wonder they got thrown off the boats.

 

[the1kidd03]

LMAO! OMG is that ever the truth! I got stories of being around SeaBee's and they were um...... no wonder they got thrown off the boats.

I had a couple of former SeaBee's, prior E6's left the navy to join the Marines and start out at the bottom.....they were a little .....slow

 

[teddy12b]

I had a couple of former SeaBee's, prior E6's left the navy to join the Marines and start out at the bottom.....they were a little .....slow

If the seabees of WWII only knew what their outfits turned into they'd be rolling over in their graves. Not trying to hijack though back to Yeager.