IDPA Match - Wabash, IN November 8 9am-1pm

[rsklar]

The Monthly IDPA Match will be held at the Wabash Wildlife & Sportsman's Association
at 9:00am on Saturday November 8.

Registration starts at 8:30, Start shooting at 9am and we are usually done by 1pm

You need to bring a concealment garment, holster, extra mags (magazine holder is beneficial)
Bring around 100 rounds of ammo, Eye and Ear protection.

No Competition Guns

If you are doing this for the first time or you have experience, all can have fun.

IDPA - Welcome! for more details. If you are not familiar with IDPA these are matches
designed around "realistic" concealed carry scenarios. Shooting while moving, use of
cover, emergency and tactical reloads, drawing from concealment (holster).

Match cost is $ 15.00
Wabash Wildlife Club Schedule

If you are thinking of attending, respond to this thread. If you have specific questions
contact me

 

[Coach]

What is the definition of a competition gun?

 

[cedartop]

What is the definition of a competition gun?

Any gun you would shoot in a competition?

 

[Coach]

Any gun you would shoot in a competition?

So what do I shoot this with?

 

[rsklar]

What is the definition of a competition gun?

IDPA uses stock and enhanced service pistols, no competition guns / holsters (those specifically designed for competition shooting) The concept is that you shoot with the guns you would normally carry concealed.

 

[Jackson]

IDPA uses stock and enhanced service pistols, no competition guns / holsters (those specifically designed for competition shooting) The concept is that you shoot with the guns you would normally carry concealed.

What if I carry a "competition gun" concealed?

Would this go better in Shooting Sports?

 

[Rob377]

Is a long slide Glock 34 a competition gun?

 

[rsklar]

Is a long slide Glock 34 a competition gun?

You can use the Glock 34 in IDPA.

 

[Rob377]

"Obtaining the greatest accuracy for target shooting was the main reason for the development of the GLOCK 34 which has an extended barrel, greater slide dimensions, and unmatched reliability in a 9x19mm pistol. This highly accurate pistol has found widespread use as a competitive pistol for USPSA, IDPA, IPSC, GSSF and other sport shooting organizations."

That's what Glock says about the 34.

If that's not a "competition gun," what would be an example of a competition gun?

 

[rsklar]

Any gun you would shoot in a competition?

From Collin COunty IDPA
[h=2]No IDPA-Approved Gun List[/h]IDPA does not publish a list of approved guns. There are simply too many makes and models available for a small organization like IDPA to keep up with. Instead, IDPA specifies characteristics of acceptable firearms for each of five IDPA equipment divisions, and leaves it to the buyer to ascertain that the model he or she is considering for purchase fully meets the requirements.
[h=2]General Firearm Requirements[/h]In general, handguns approved for use in IDPA competition will fire 9mm, .38 Spl, or higher-caliber/more-powerful ammunition, and be practical for day-to-day use as concealed-carry weapons. Guns with features intended solely for competitive advantage or for use in specialized military or law enforcement applications are not approved if those features would render the gun impractical for all-day concealed carry. IDPA is about competing with practical, non-specialized, and affordable equipment, as stated by the opening quote above.
IDPA equipment rules permit practically any box-stock factory gun that meets the description above to be used. In addition, usual and customary sight and grip changes and trigger pull improvements are allowed in all IDPA equipment divisions -- Sights must be "notch and post," grips must be non-weighted, and trigger pull must be safe for action shooting. Weighted guide rods (those containing material other than common steel) and other accessories intended to increase the weight of the gun are not allowed. In short, only when the gun is or could be described as a "custom gun" do you need to be concerned with it being excluded from IDPA: Almost all guns suitable for real-world defensive and practical concealed-carry use are allowed in one or more IDPA divisions.

 

[Rob377]

"" In short, only when the gun is or could be described as a "custom gun" do you need to be concerned with it being excluded from IDPA: [/FONT][/COLOR]Almost all guns suitable for real-world defensive and practical concealed-carry use are allowed in one or more IDPA divisions."

I'm confused....Doesn't Wilson Combat make super high end "custom guns," and they own IDPA, no? Their guns are legal right? Can I bring my Wilson custom supergrade?

 

[Snizz1911]

I've never shot IDPA before, but I see 38 special is approved. I have a 38 bodyguard I could use but all I have is an ankle holster. Is that allowed? Also are speed loader majiggys acceptable? How many round are the normal course of fire, I might be cutting it close with the ole 5 shot.

 

[praff]

this is very confusing to me as well....i don't want to show up and not be able to shoot when I bring my custom finished and upgraded Les Baer. It started life as a factory gun, but has upgrades that make it better for me. While it definitely is very far from a stock pistol, i could and do carry it for self defense. It has many features that make reloads faster for me and sight acquisition more expedient as well. All of this would be beneficial in a self defense situation. However, it is beneficial in a competition specific atmosphere as well.

Still confused

 

[rsklar]

Here are the detailed rules for firearms.

Praff you would be able to shoot your 45 ACP without a problem.

Complete rules are at IDPA - Welcome!


8. – Equipment Rules
8.1. Firearms - General
8.1.1. Division Summary
8.1.1.1. IDPA is divided into five (5) divisions that are entirely separate. None of the following divisions compete against any other division: Stock Service Pistol (SSP); Enhanced Service Pistol (ESP); Custom Defensive Pistol (CDP); Enhanced Service Revolver (ESR); and Stock Service Revolver (SSR).
8.1.1.2. Double action, double action only and striker fired semi-automatic firearms compete in Stock Service Pistol Division (SSP). Any firearm that can be used in SSP can be used in Enhanced Service Pistol Division (ESP) or Custom Defensive Pistol Division (CDP), depending upon the caliber. Single action semi-automatic firearms compete in ESP or CDP, depending upon caliber. Revolvers are classified by loading method and ammunition power.
8.1.2. Magazine Loading
8.1.2.1. All magazines must be loaded to division capacity at the start signal throughout the match except in the following cases:
8.1.2.2. If a magazine is used that holds less than division capacity, the shooter will load all magazines to the capacity of the lowest magazine throughout the match.
8.1.2.3. The CoF description may require reduced magazine loading.
8.1.2.4. In SSR and ESR, the shooter must load the revolver and all loading devices with the same number of rounds throughout the match unless the above loading exceptions apply.
8.1.3. Division Capacity
8.1.3.1. SSP – 10 rounds
8.1.3.2. ESP – 10 rounds
8.1.3.3. CDP – 8 rounds
8.1.3.4. SSR – 6 rounds
8.1.3.5. ESR – 6 rounds
8.1.3.6. In SSP, ESP, and CDP, the shooter will also start with one round in the chamber, unless the CoF description requires otherwise.
8.1.4. Loading Device (Magazine, Speed Loader, Moon Clip) Count
8.1.4.1. Shooters starting with 8 or more rounds in all loading devices are allowed to start with the loaded firearm plus two additional loading devices.
8.1.4.2. Shooters starting with 6 or 7 rounds in all loading devices are allowed to start with the loaded firearm plus three additional loading devices.
8.1.4.3. Shooters starting with 5 or fewer rounds in all loading devices are allowed to start with the loaded firearm plus four additional loading devices.
8.1.4.4. No additional loading devices beyond the above limits may be used during a string.
8.1.5. Unserviceable Firearm Rule
8.1.5.1. In any single match, a shooter must use the same firearm for all stages unless it becomes unserviceable.
8.1.5.2. If the shooter determines that the firearm has become unserviceable, he will notify the Safety Officer who will notify the Match Director.
8.1.5.3. Once the shooter declares the firearm is unserviceable, it may not be used for the duration of the match.
8.1.5.4. The shooter may continue the match at the next start signal. Previous strings may not be re-shot.
8.1.5.5. Any same-division legal replacement firearm may be used.
8.1.5.6. If the replacement firearm magazines do not allow the same loading capacity as the original firearm, the shooter may adjust the magazine loading to suit the replacement firearm, following the magazine loading rules in Section 8.1.2.
8.1.6. Legal Modifications for All Divisions
8.1.6.1. Storage locks may be disabled or removed.
8.1.6.2. Magazine disconnects may be disabled or removed.
8.1.6.3. Lasers that are incorporated into the firearm or sights are allowed if they comply with all other division rules and the laser is not activated during a string of fire. Tape may be used to prevent the laser from projecting.
8.1.7. Non-IDPA-Legal Modifications for All Divisions
The following features and modifications are not allowed in any division unless otherwise specifically allowed in the rulebook.
8.1.7.1. Compensators of any type including hybrid or ported barrels.
8.1.7.2. Add-on weights for a competitive advantage. This includes (but is not limited to) weighted magazines, tungsten guide rods, brass magazine wells, weighted grips, and weighted grip plugs.
8.1.7.3. Heavy and/or cone style barrels without a barrel bushing except as allowed in ESP and CDP divisions with length restrictions.
8.1.7.4. Sights of non-standard configuration (ghost rings, Bo-Mar ribs, etc.).
8.1.7.5. Disconnecting or disabling of any safety device including (but not limited to): manual safeties, grip safeties, firing pin, striker, and hammer blocking safeties, 1911 series 80 firing pin safeties, 1911 Swartz safeties. 1911 series 80 frames may be used with series 70 slides or vice versa. Revolver actions may not be modified so that the hammer can fall when the cylinder is open.
8.1.7.6. Lights mounted on firearms.
8.1.7.7. Rail mounted lasers and bolt-on trigger guard mounted lasers are not allowed.
8.2. Firearms - Divisions
8.2.1. Stock Service Pistol Division (SSP)
8.2.1.1. Handguns permitted for use in SSP must:
8.2.1.1.1. Have a minimum annual production of 2,000 units. Discontinued models must have had a total production of 20,000 units.
8.2.1.1.2. Be semi-automatic.
8.2.1.1.3. Be double action, double action only, or striker fired.
8.2.1.1.4. Be 9mm (9x19) or larger caliber.
8.2.1.1.5. The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 43.00 oz/1219.0 grams or less.
8.2.1.1.6. The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 8 ¾” x 6” x 1 5/8”.
8.2.1.2. Start Condition:
8.2.1.2.1. Selective DA/SA firearms will start hammer down.
8.2.1.2.2. Firearms with a de-cocking lever or button will be de-cocked using the lever or button.
8.2.1.2.3. If the hammer must be lowered by pulling the trigger and manually lowering the hammer, the hammer will be lowered to the lowest position possible.
8.2.1.2.4. In SSP, manual safeties may be engaged at the shooter’s discretion.
8.2.1.3. SSP Permitted Modifications (Inclusive list):
8.2.1.3.1. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type but slides may not be machined to accept different style sights in SSP.
8.2.1.3.2. Grips may be changed to another style or material that is similar to factory configuration and do not weigh more than 2.00 oz/56.7 grams more than the factory standard weight for that model.
8.2.1.3.3. Magazine releases, slide stops, safety levers, de-cocking levers, hammers, and triggers, that are stock on one SSP legal firearm may be used on another SSP legal firearm from the same manufacturer provided they are drop in replacements. Parts in this list must come factory installed on standard production firearms. Special parts that are available installed only from a factory custom shop are not eligible in SSP. Effective 04/01/2014.
8.2.1.3.4. Recoil spring guide rods and dual spring recoil systems made of material that is no heavier than stainless steel.
8.2.1.3.5. Frames may be replaced with identical frames from the same manufacturer.
8.2.1.3.6. A slip-on grip sock and/or grip tape, skateboard tape, etc. may be used.
8.2.1.3.7. Internal action work may be used to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained (no visible external modifications allowed).
8.2.1.3.8. Internal reliability work.
8.2.1.3.9. Aftermarket extractors and pins may be used.
8.2.1.3.10. Internal accuracy work.
8.2.1.3.11. Replacement of barrel with one of factory configuration and original caliber.
8.2.1.3.12. Plastic plugs may be used to fill the opening behind the magazine well.
8.2.1.3.13. Custom finishes may be applied.
8.2.1.3.14. Stock slide cover plates may be refinished.
8.2.1.3.15. Slides may be engraved. Engraving is defined as etching into the slide of logos, letters, and graphics no deeper than the original factory logos.
8.2.1.3.16. Stippling and texturing may be performed on readily replaceable parts of the grip frame such as replaceable back straps and replaceable grip panels.
8.2.1.3.17. Aftermarket magazines may be used provided they do not weigh more than 1.00 oz/28.3 grams over the same capacity factory magazine.
8.2.1.3.18. Aftermarket magazine base pads may be used provided they do not make the magazine weight more than 1.00 oz/28.3 grams over the same capacity factory magazine.
8.2.1.3.19. Magazine base pads may be modified by reshaping, texturing, or adding bumper pads provided that they do not make the magazine weigh more than 1.00 oz/28.3 grams over the same capacity factory magazine.
8.2.1.3.20. Magazines that are longer than stock may be used provided they meet all other division requirements.
8.2.1.4. SSP Excluded Modifications (Non-Inclusive list):
8.2.1.4.1. Externally visible modifications other than those listed in the Permitted Modifications section.
8.2.1.4.2. Aftermarket or visibly modified magazine releases, slide stops, safety levers, de-cocking levers, and hammers.
8.2.1.4.3. Robar-style grip reduction.
8.2.1.4.4. Add-on magazine well opening.
8.2.1.4.5. Slide inserts to accommodate a different recoil assembly design.
8.2.1.4.6. A barrel of another caliber that is not offered in the original factory model.
8.2.1.4.7. Customization of the slide by adding front cocking serrations, tri-top, carry melts, and high power cuts.
8.2.1.4.8. Compensated firearms with non-compensated barrels installed.
8.2.1.4.9. Checkering or stippling on non-readily replaceable parts of the grip frame.
8.2.1.4.10. Aftermarket slides.
8.2.1.4.11. Removing material from the magazine well opening.
8.2.1.4.12. Aftermarket grip tang extensions or beavertails.
8.2.1.4.13. Disabling the slide stop.

8.2.2 Enhanced Service Pistol Division (ESP)
8.2.2.1. Handguns permitted for use in ESP must:
8.2.2.1.1. Be semi-automatic.
8.2.2.1.2. Be 9mm (9x19) or larger caliber.
8.2.2.1.3. The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 43.00 oz/1219.0 grams or less.
8.2.2.1.4. The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 8 ¾” x 6” x 1 5/8”.
8.2.2.1.5. Firearms originally sold as compensated models may be used in ESP with non-compensated barrels installed.
8.2.2.1.6. Start Condition:
8.2.2.1.6.1. Firearms designed for cocked and locked carry will start cocked and locked (hammer cocked, safety engaged).
8.2.2.1.6.2. Selective DA/SA firearms will start cocked and locked or de-cocked. This is the shooter’s discretion, including firearms using the SSP into ESP rule.
8.2.2.1.6.3. Double action, double action only, or striker fired firearms with a de-cocking lever or button will be de-cocked using the lever or button.
8.2.2.1.6.4. Double action, double action only, or striker-fired firearms may have a manual safety engaged at the shooter’s discretion.
8.2.2.1.7. All firearms legal in SSP are legal for use in ESP. This provision may be used for firearms that violate an ESP rule (for example, a firearm with a steel dust cover or rail over 3.25”) to still be used in ESP, provided the firearm meets all SSP requirements.
8.2.2.2. ESP Permitted Features and Modifications (Inclusive list):
8.2.2.2.1. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type.
8.2.2.2.2. Grips may be changed provided they do not weigh more than 2.00 oz/56.7 grams more than the factory standard weight for that model.
8.2.2.2.3. A slip-on grip sock and/or grip tape, skateboard tape, etc. may be used.
8.2.2.2.4. Robar-style grip reduction.
8.2.2.2.5. Action work may be used to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained.
8.2.2.2.6. Reliability work.
8.2.2.2.7. Aftermarket extractors and pins may be used.
8.2.2.2.8. Internal accuracy work.
8.2.2.2.9. Replacement of barrel with one of factory configuration in a stock or non-stock caliber.
8.2.2.2.10. Plastic plugs may be used to fill the opening behind the magazine well.
8.2.2.2.11. Aftermarket triggers and trigger work that result in the trigger being forward or rearward from the stock trigger position.
8.2.2.2.12. Externally visible trigger over travel stops.
8.2.2.2.13. Hammer and other trigger action parts to enhance trigger pull.
8.2.2.2.14. Checkering, serrating, and stippling.
8.2.2.2.15. Reshape trigger guard.
8.2.2.2.16. Extended and/or ambidextrous thumb safety.
8.2.2.2.17. Extended beavertail grip safety.
8.2.2.2.18. Extended magazine release (button may not be oversize in diameter or protrude more than 0.2” out from the frame).
8.2.2.2.19. Ambidextrous or right side magazine releases.
8.2.2.2.20. Extended, trimmed, and/or ambidextrous slide releases.
8.2.2.2.21. Heavy or cone style barrels on firearms with barrel lengths of 4.25” or less.
8.2.2.2.22. Recoil spring guide rods and dual spring recoil systems made of material that is no heavier than stainless steel.
8.2.2.2.23. Slide inserts to accommodate a different recoil assembly design.
8.2.2.2.24. Modification of the magazine well and add-on well extensions.
8.2.2.2.25. Custom finishes and engraving may be applied.
8.2.2.2.26. Aftermarket slide cover plates.
8.2.2.2.27. Slides with front cocking serrations, tri-top, carry melts, and high power cuts.
8.2.2.2.28. Grip tang extensions or beavertails
8.2.2.2.29. Swenson style thumb shields and frame mounted thumb shields.
8.2.2.2.30. Aftermarket safeties.
8.2.2.2.31. Aftermarket magazine base pads may be used provided they do not make the magazine weight more than 1.50 oz/42.5 grams over the same capacity factory magazine.
8.2.2.2.32. Magazine base pads may be modified by reshaping, texturing, or adding bumper pads provided that they do not make the magazine weigh more than 1.50 oz/42.5 grams over the same capacity factory magazine.
8.2.2.2.33. Magazines that are longer than stock may be used provided they meet all other division requirements.
8.2.2.3. ESP Excluded Features and Modifications (Non-Inclusive list):
8.2.2.3.1. Steel dust covers and rails over 3.25” (as measured from the rear of the slide stop pin to the most forward portion of the dust cover or rail) are not permitted.
8.2.2.3.2. Removal of material from the exterior of the slide other than front cocking serrations, tri-top, engraving, carry melts, and high power cuts.
8.2.2.3.3. Oversize diameter magazine release buttons.
8.2.2.3.4. Trigger shoes.
8.2.2.3.5. Disabling the slide stop.

8.2.3. Custom Defensive Pistol Division (CDP)
8.2.3.1. Handguns permitted for use in CDP must:
8.2.3.1.1. Be semi-automatic.
8.2.3.1.2. Be .45 ACP caliber.
8.2.3.1.3. The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 43.00 oz/1219.0 grams or less.
8.2.3.1.4. The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 8 ¾” x 6” x 1 5/8”.
8.2.3.1.5. Firearms originally sold as compensated models may be used in CDP with non-compensated barrels installed.
8.2.3.1.6. Start Condition:
8.2.3.1.6.1. Firearms designed for cocked and locked carry will start cocked and locked (hammer cocked, safety engaged).
8.2.3.1.6.2. Selective DA/SA firearms will start cocked and locked or de-cocked. This is the shooter’s discretion, including firearms using the SSP into CDP rule.
8.2.3.1.6.3. Double action, double action only, or striker fired firearms with a de-cocking lever or button will be de-cocked using the lever or button.
8.2.3.1.6.4. Double action, double action only, or striker-fired firearms may have a manual safety engaged at the shooter’s discretion.
8.2.3.1.7. All .45 ACP firearms legal in SSP are legal for use in CDP. This provision may be used for firearms that violate a CDP rule (for example, a firearm with a steel dust cover or rail over 3.25”) to still be used in CDP, provided the firearm meets all SSP requirements.
8.2.3.2. CDP Permitted Features and Modifications (Inclusive list):
8.2.3.2.1. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type.
8.2.3.2.2. Grips may be changed provided they do not weigh more than 2.00 oz/56.7 grams more than the factory standard weight for that model.
8.2.3.2.3. A slip-on grip sock and/or grip tape, skateboard tape, etc. tape may be used.
8.2.3.2.4. Robar-style grip reduction.
8.2.3.2.5. Action work may be used to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained.
8.2.3.2.6. Reliability work.
8.2.3.2.7. Aftermarket extractors and pins may be used.
8.2.3.2.8. Internal accuracy work.
8.2.3.2.9. Replacement barrels of factory configuration in .45 ACP.
8.2.3.2.10. Plastic plugs may be used to fill the opening behind the magazine well.
8.2.3.2.11. Aftermarket triggers and trigger work that result in the trigger being forward or rearward from the stock trigger position.
8.2.3.2.12. Externally visible trigger over travel stops.
8.2.3.2.13. Hammer and other trigger action parts to enhance trigger pull.
8.2.3.2.14. Checkering, serrating, and stippling.
8.2.3.2.15. Reshape trigger guard.
8.2.3.2.16. Extended and/or ambidextrous thumb safety.
8.2.3.2.17. Extended beavertail grip safety.
8.2.3.2.18. Extended magazine release (button may not be oversize in diameter or protrude more than 0.2” out from the frame).
8.2.3.2.19. Ambidextrous or right side magazine releases.
8.2.3.2.20. Extended, trimmed, and/or ambidextrous slide releases.
8.2.3.2.21. Heavy or cone style barrels on firearms with barrel lengths of 4.25” or less.
8.2.3.2.22. Recoil spring guide rods and dual spring recoil systems made of material that is no heavier than stainless steel.
8.2.3.2.23. Slide inserts to accommodate a different recoil assembly design.
8.2.3.2.24. Modification of the magazine well and add-on well extensions.
8.2.3.2.25. Custom finishes and engraving may be applied.
8.2.3.2.26. Aftermarket slide cover plates.
8.2.3.2.27. Slides with front cocking serrations, tri-top, engraving, carry melts and high power cuts.
8.2.3.2.28. Grip tang extensions or beavertails
8.2.3.2.29. Swenson style thumb shields and frame mounted thumb shields.
8.2.3.2.30. Aftermarket safeties.
8.2.3.2.31. Aftermarket magazine base pads may be used provided they do not make the magazine weight more than 1.50 oz/42.5 grams over the same capacity factory magazine.
8.2.3.2.32. Magazine base pads may be modified by reshaping, texturing, or adding bumper pads provided that they do not make the magazine weigh more than 1.50 oz/42.5 grams over the same capacity factory magazine.
8.2.3.2.33. Magazines that are longer than stock may be used provided they meet all other division requirements.
8.2.3.3. CDP Excluded Features and Modifications (Non-Inclusive list):
8.2.3.3.1. Steel dust covers and rails over 3.25” (as measured from the rear of the slide stop pin to the most forward portion of the dust cover or rail) are not permitted.
8.2.3.3.2. Removal of material from the exterior of the slide other than front cocking serrations, tri-top, engraving, carry melts, and high power cuts.
8.2.3.3.3. Oversize diameter magazine release buttons.
8.2.3.3.4. Trigger shoes.
8.2.3.3.5. Disabling the slide stop.

8.2.4. Enhanced Service Revolver Division (ESR)
8.2.4.1. Handguns permitted for use in ESR must:
8.2.4.1.1. Be any revolver of .357 magnum caliber (.357” or larger) or larger bore diameter utilizing rimmed or rimless cartridges.
8.2.4.1.2. The use of trimmed (shortened) ammunition is not allowed.
8.2.4.1.3. Ammunition used must match the caliber listed on the firearm with the following exceptions:
8.2.4.1.3.1. .38 special in .357 magnum
8.2.4.1.3.2. .40 S&W in 10mm
8.2.4.1.3.3. .44 special in .44 magnum
8.2.4.1.3.4. .45 Auto Rim or .45 GAP in .45 ACP
8.2.4.1.3.5. .45 ACP or .45 GAP in .45 Colt
8.2.4.1.4. Have a barrel length of 4.2” or less (as measured from the front of the cylinder).
8.2.4.1.5. The unloaded firearm must weigh 50.00 oz/1417.5 grams or less.
8.2.4.1.6. Be loaded to the division capacity of six (6) rounds in the cylinder. Seven (7) and eight (8) shot revolvers are permitted, but may only load six (6) rounds.
8.2.4.1.7. ESR revolvers may be loaded via speed loader or full moon clip.
8.2.4.2. ESR Permitted Modifications (Inclusive list):
8.2.4.2.1. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type.
8.2.4.2.2. Action work to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained (smoothing the trigger face, removing the hammer spur, use of over travel stop, conversion to DA only and addition of ball detent are considered action work and are permitted).
8.2.4.2.3. Grips may be changed to another style or material that is similar to factory configuration, provided they do not weigh more than 2.00 oz/56.7 grams more than the factory standard weight for that model.
8.2.4.2.4. Grip tape, skateboard tape, etc. may be used.
8.2.4.2.5. Cylinder latches may be modified or replaced, but may not protrude past the frame in any direction and may not be thicker than 3/8" as measured from the side plate of the frame.
8.2.4.2.6. Chamfer the rear of the chambers.
8.2.4.2.7. Shortening of factory barrels.
8.2.4.2.8. Re-barreling to another factory offering for that model.
8.2.4.2.9. Conversion to accept moon clips.
8.2.4.2.10. Custom finishes.
8.2.4.3. ESR Excluded Modifications (Non-Inclusive list):
8.2.4.3.1. Oversize or heavy barrels.
8.2.4.3.2. Hogue Big Butt grips and similar are not allowed.

8.2.5. Stock Service Revolver Division (SSR)
8.2.5.1. Handguns permitted for use in SSR must be:
8.2.5.1.1. Any revolver of .38 Special caliber or larger that utilizes ammunition with a rimmed case and is not loaded with moon clips.
8.2.5.1.2. The use of trimmed (shortened) ammunition is not allowed.
8.2.5.1.3. Ammunition used must match the caliber listed on the firearm with the following exceptions:
8.2.5.1.3.1. .38 special in .357 magnum
8.2.5.1.3.2. .44 special in .44 magnum
8.2.5.1.3.3. .45 Auto Rim in .45 ACP
8.2.5.1.4. Barrel length of 4.2” or less (as measured from the front of the cylinder).
8.2.5.1.5. The unloaded firearm must weigh 43.00 oz/1219.0 grams or less.
8.2.5.1.6. Be loaded to the division capacity of six (6) rounds in the cylinder. Seven (7) and eight (8) shot revolvers are permitted, but may only load six (6) rounds.
8.2.5.2. SSR Permitted Modifications (Inclusive list):
8.2.5.2.1. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type.
8.2.5.2.2. Action work to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained (smoothing the trigger face, removing the hammer spur, use of over travel stop, conversion to DA only and addition of ball detent are considered action work and are permitted).
8.2.5.2.3. Grips may be changed to another style or material that is similar to factory configuration, provided they do not weigh more than 2.00 oz/56.7 grams more than the factory standard weight for that model.
8.2.5.2.4. Grip tape, skateboard tape, etc. may be used.
8.2.5.2.5. Cylinder latches may be changed to another factory offering from the firearm manufacturer.
8.2.5.2.6. Chamfer the rear of the chambers.
8.2.5.2.7. Shortening of factory barrels.
8.2.5.2.8. Re-barreling to another factory offering for that model.
8.2.5.2.9. Firearms converted to accept moon clips may be used in SSR provided moon clips are not used.
8.2.5.2.10. Custom finishes.
8.2.5.3. SSR Excluded Modifications (Non-Inclusive list):
8.2.5.3.1. Oversize or heavy barrels.
8.2.5.3.2. Hogue Big Butt grips and similar are not allowed.

8.2.6. Back Up gun (BUG)
8.2.6.1. Clubs may hold BUG matches where BUG guns compete in specially designed CoFs. BUG matches are club level only unless approved by IDPA Headquarters as a Specialty Match. To allow semi-automatic and revolver shooters to compete equally, all CoFs for BUG matches will be limited to five rounds per string, and firearms will start with five rounds maximum per string. No reloads may be performed on the clock.
8.2.6.2. A BUG match could consist of one or several stages, perhaps held at the same time as a normal club level match. A BUG stage could consist of a regular stage with a modified CoF procedure that complies with the five rounds per string limit.
8.2.6.2.1. Handguns permitted for use in BUG matches must:
8.2.6.2.1.1. Be single action, double action, double action only, or striker fired.
8.2.6.2.1.2. Be either semi-automatic or revolver.
8.2.6.2.1.3. Be a center fire caliber
8.2.6.2.1.4. Barrel length:
8.2.6.2.1.5. Semi-automatic: 3.8” or less.
8.2.6.2.1.6. Revolver: 3” or less.
8.2.6.3. BUG Permitted Modifications (Inclusive list):
8.2.6.3.1. All BUGs
8.2.6.3.1.1. Storage locks may be disabled or removed.
8.2.6.3.1.2. Magazine disconnects may be disabled or removed.
8.2.6.3.1.3. Lasers that are incorporated into the firearm or sights are legal if they comply with all other division rules and the laser is not activated.
8.2.6.3.2. Revolvers:
8.2.6.3.2.1. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type.
8.2.6.3.2.2. Grips to another style or material that is similar to factory configuration.
8.2.6.3.2.3. Grip tape, skateboard tape, etc. may be used.
8.2.6.3.2.4. Action work to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained.
8.2.6.3.2.5. Bob hammer spur.
8.2.6.3.2.6. Chamfer cylinder.
8.2.6.3.2.7. Custom finishes.
8.2.6.3.3. Semi-Automatics:
8.2.6.3.3.1. Sights may be changed to another notch and post type.
8.2.6.3.3.2. Grips to another style or material that is similar to factory configuration.
8.2.6.3.3.3. Slip-on grip sock and/or grip tape, skateboard tape, etc.
8.2.6.3.3.4. Action work to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained.
8.2.6.3.3.5. Reliability work to enhance feeding and ejection.
8.2.6.3.3.6. Internal accuracy work to include replacement of barrel with one of factory configuration.
8.2.6.3.3.7. Cone style barrels with or without a barrel bushing are permitted.
8.2.6.3.3.8. Custom finishes.
8.2.6.4. BUG Excluded Modifications (Non-Inclusive list):
Refer to Non-IDPA-Legal Modifications for ALL Divisions

 

[chezuki]

You guys allowing AIWB yet?

 

[rsklar]

If you mean Appendix, no. IWB are permitted provided they are at the side or slightly to the rear. It is solely a safety issue, same reason why shoulder holsters are not allowed because of muzzling people on the range.

 

[chezuki]

If you mean Appendix, no. IWB are permitted provided they are at the side or slightly to the rear. It is solely a safety issue, same reason why shoulder holsters are not allowed because of muzzling people on the range.

I understand shoulder holsters not being allowed as they require you to break tho 180° to reholster. Should I expect to find people on the ground between my feet? If not, what safety issue are you referring to?

Rob says competition will get me killed on the street.

Being that I do not wish to be killed on the street, should I simply avoid competition all together?

 

[rsklar]

I understand shoulder holsters not being allowed as they require you to break tho 180° to reholster. Should I expect to find people on the ground between my feet? If not, what safety issue are you referring to?

Rob says competition will get me killed on the street.

Being that I do not wish to be killed on the street, should I simply avoid competition all together?

I think because you cannot draw and re-holster during the match without muzzling yourself. With Appendix you essentially muzzle you "junk" and ... well... just the thought of that

 

[Snizz1911]

Rsklar, thanks for posting those guidelines. I tried to skim through those and admit I may not have read them thoroughly enough or am just not comprehending a couple things, so I wanted to clarify on my ankle holster and if that was allowed. If I can't I may be able to borrow a belly band.

I also appreciate you clarifying the rules on lasers. My 38 bodyguard came with a laser and all the classes I have taken practicing critical dynamic incidents I have used the laser for efficient target transitions. In this setting I perceive the rules to mean I can shoot this gun, just without the laser? I was also confused somewhat on how to reload and how many rounds the course of fire would be. I can use my speedy reloaded thingy's or just carry loose rounds in my pocket, whatever is kosher.

Appreciate your help and look forward to shooting!

 

[Jackson]

Since we're in the Tactics and Training forum (and not the Shooting Sports forum), I have a couple questions that are training related:

What are the best ways to train and practice for IDPA? Are there any drills you would suggest to gain proficiency?

Is IDPA a good way to trian and practice for a real defensive shooting situation?

Are there any down sides to using IDPA for preparing to use a pistol in a real defensive situation?