Y'all a bunch of dumb

[hoosierdoc]

Trump got 51% of vote from those with a HS degree or lower


He got 52% of vote from those with associates degree or some college


He got 45% of vote of those with four year degree or more.

 

[nakinate]

Trump got 51% of vote from those with a HS degree or lower


He got 52% of vote from those with associates degree or some college


He got 45% of vote of those with four year degree or more.

But you're not educated unless you have grad school degree.

 

[eldirector]

Trump got 51% of vote from those with a HS degree or lower


He got 52% of vote from those with associates degree or some college


He got 45% of vote of those with four year degree or more.

Don't ruin the emotional rant with your facts!

 

[Kutnupe14]

Don't ruin the emotional rant with your facts!

Are we sure those are facts? There's 2 narratives being spun, and they can't reconcile with each other. Is polling reliable, or not?

 

[hoosierdoc]

But you're not educated unless you have grad school degree.

So to summarize the left has blamed:

1) Whites
2) Men
3) "un"educated
4) Christians
5) Gun owners
6) The Constitution (electoral college)

Still not enough blame to wind back around to putting some at their own feet for their candidate, her actions/crimes, and their own policies

 

[patience0830]

Are we sure those are facts? There's 2 narratives being spun, and they can't reconcile with each other. Is polling reliable, or not?

Yes.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Are we sure those are facts? There's 2 narratives being spun, and they can't reconcile with each other. Is polling reliable, or not?

nope, completely random numbers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/

The interesting thing is.... black men with college degrees voted 16% for trump, and black men without a college degree voted 11% for trump

I now officially blame educated black men for Trump.

 

[eldirector]

Are we sure those are facts? There's 2 narratives being spun, and they can't reconcile with each other. Is polling reliable, or not?

It is at least as factual as the "uneducated and deplorable" comments.

 

[Kutnupe14]

nope, completely random numbers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/

The interesting thing is.... black men with college degrees voted 16% for trump, and black men without a college degree voted 11% for trump

I now officially blame educated black men for Trump.

So you're saying polling after the election is more reliable than polling before? You're a smart guy doc. I have no idea why you are willing to accept the disconnect so easily.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

So you're saying polling after the election is more reliable than polling before? You're a smart guy doc. I have no idea why you are willing to accept the disconnect so easily.

Fair enough, Kut (and polling WAS inaccurate, to be sure) - are you saying that the hypothetical person answering the poll above (educated black males) would be MORE or LESS likely to admit voting for Trump at this point?

I guess bandwagon is possible. But I would think that many folks would still want to avoid the shaming that has gone on so rampantly and blatantly.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Fair enough, Kut (and polling WAS inaccurate, to be sure) - are you saying that the hypothetical person answering the poll above (educated black males) would be MORE or LESS likely to admit voting for Trump at this point?

I guess bandwagon is possible. But I would think that many folks would still want to avoid the shaming that has gone on so rampantly and blatantly.

I have no idea, but I have never ever viewed polls as reliable. The sample size is generally too small to make a generalization about 300 million people. If the poll said educated black males in Salt Lake City sure, believable.... educated black males in Birmingham, not so much.

 

[hoosierdoc]

So you're saying polling after the election is more reliable than polling before? You're a smart guy doc. I have no idea why you are willing to accept the disconnect so easily.

Yes, I think asking someone their demographics and who they voted for on their way out of a poll is a more accurate sample of who voted than a random phone call to someone's house before they voted. Especially with the crappy turnout.

Even YOU cannot disagree with that, though you probably will.

I fear the "new Kutnupe" was simply the "kutnupe thinks Hillary will win" kutnupe

 

[Kutnupe14]

Yes, I think asking someone their demographics and who they voted for on their way out of a poll is a more accurate sample of who voted than a random phone call to someone's house before they voted. Especially with the crappy turnout.

Even YOU cannot disagree with that, though you probably will.

I fear the "new Kutnupe" was simply the "kutnupe thinks Hillary will win" kutnupe

Lol, what? Actually nevermind.

 

[Leo]

Went to school, in various forms most of my adult life, earning several degrees, Sciences, Business and Liberal Arts. Paid every dime with money earned by working, with no government intervention. As I admittedly voted against the female criminal, how much more education do I need to loose the "ignorant" status the press has assigned?

 

[actaeon277]

Having gone to school, in various forms most of my adult life, earning several degrees, Sciences, Business and Liberal Arts. Paying every dime with money earned by working. As I admittedly voted against the female criminal, how much more education do I need to loose the "ignorant" status the press has assigned?

I know that was rhetorical, but... when you start voting Democrat, and stop questioning your "betters".

 

[CampingJosh]

Polling wasn't really far off nationwide. Hillary won the popular vote by a fraction of a percent. Polls showed her winning by about 3%. Most of the polls were within their margin of error.

 

[JollyMon]

Some of the smartest people I know (even by the liberal standards of higher education degrees) voted for Trump.

David890 did not..... but thats because he has an 140 IQ.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Some of the smartest people I know (even by the liberal standards of higher education degrees) voted for Trump.

David890 did not..... but thats because he has an 140 IQ.

I know about the same amounts of equally dumb and smart people, that voted for both candidates.

 

[eldirector]

I know about the same amounts of equally dumb and smart people, that voted for both candidates.

Which seems to align with the numbers posted up-thread.

The rhetoric that uneducated rednecks voted for Trump, and the corollary that educated elites voted for Hillary, seems to be just that - rhetoric. No basis in fact. The numbers (such that they are) and our experiences just don't align with that view.

The only thing we can say with certainty is that several large urban areas went largely Clinton. Pretty much everywhere else went Trump.

I suspect education, race, age, ethnicity, and even economic status have little to do with it. I suspect that largest differentiation was ones political views. Some folks want the Feds to tell everyone what to do. Some folks want to kick the Feds right in the Johnson.

 

[steveh_131]

I wonder what would happen if a journalist pointed out certain 'uneducated' demographics who voted for Obama.