"Unexpectedly" poor jobs report...

[BugI02]

As a side note, I cringe every time I see some of these commercials for home delivery of groceries. Not "Kroger" type groceries... I mean like Hungry Root. The commercials typically show young people, probably just starting out, or maybe still in college or something, stocking their fridge with all this stuff and I just think, "I wonder how much they paid for THAT", when they could have gone to a regular grocery store or Aldi's and gotten it for a fraction of the price that they probably paid.

This^^^ One of the nicknames for Whole Foods is 'Whole Paycheck'

 

[BugI02]

I still haven't seen the answer to my question of who raised these entitled brats?

The Glass Teat

 

[Jaybird1980]

Blaming others for bad decisions and wanting to use the force of state to plunder others for help has a very long history.

Well this expecting a basic fast food job to earn someone a living wage is pretty new.

Apparently there is quite a few people who want to stop treating entry level jobs as entry level. Instead they are trying to encourage people to look at these jobs as long-term employment.

 

[BigRed]

Well this expecting a basic fast food job to earn someone a living wage is pretty new.

Apparently there is quite a few people who want to stop treating entry level jobs as entry level. Instead they are trying to encourage people to look at these jobs as long-term employment.

Typically mother ******* commies.

 

[BigRed]

Does anybody even share "Animal Farm" with younger people today?

 

[sparky32]

I take it a few people here have never owned a business and have not a f****** clue what they are talking about. It shows that is for sure.

 

[BugI02]

Does anybody even share "Animal Farm" with younger people today?

Unless somebody has come out with an Xbox or Playstation version, probably not

 

[sparky32]

Can’t afford one in my section 8 apartment, don’t have a yard, lardlord would probably tell me I couldn’t anywAy. Bagged soil, seeds and pots are expensive.kinda elitist to think everyone just has soil laying around ready to be sown.....
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I think PPP program and other business stimulus in 2020 solidly established that there is little to no risk to business owners anymore. Those that closed or complained they were being run under either failed to do the paperwork to get literal free money or failed to pivot their business model to thrive in the new situation like their competitor.

Did you ever have to get ppp funds? Do you run a business? It is not just filling out "paperwork" you have to show loss of income 30% on P&L sheets and bank statements.

Im not for goverment giving this money away but when goverment forces my business to close for 8 weeks and lets walmart stay open that f***** p***** me off. But yet i have no risk? Thats laughable.

Since they made me close for said covid scamdemic then they will pay for it.

 

[BigRed]

Did you ever have to get ppp funds? Do you run a business? It is not just filling out "paperwork" you have to show loss of income 30% on P&L sheets and bank statements.

Im not for goverment giving this money away but when goverment forces my business to close for 8 weeks and lets walmart stay open that f***** p***** me off. But yet i have no risk? Thats laughable.

Since they made me close for said covid scamdemic then they will pay for it.

I'm not for state taking property in the first place.

 

[actaeon277]

I still haven't seen the answer to my question of who raised these entitled brats?

Parents that wanted to give their kids "everything they didn't have".
Instead of "teaching them everything they needed"

 

[actaeon277]

What kind of work?

In general, steel mill.
More specifically, maintenance. Electrical or Mechanical.
Production people have to be trained for their machine or process.
But maintenance has to know at least the basics, before working or training.

Apparently, huge machinery, loud noises, and heat, scare the trainees in the week safety class. Maybe it's one week. Don't know. They didn't have it when I started.
But too many noobs getting injured.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Typically mother ******* commies.

I seem to recall this taking off under Billy Jeff Clinton, exporting really good jobs, replacing them with minimum wage jobs, and crowing about 2 (minimum wage) jobs being created for every (good, that you can support a family with) job lost. As a result people latched onto the idea that these "fabulous" new jobs should support a family.

 

[BigRed]

I seem to recall this taking off under Billy Jeff Clinton, exporting really good jobs, replacing them with minimum wage jobs, and crowing about 2 (minimum wage) jobs being created for every (good, that you can support a family with) job lost. As a result people latched onto the idea that these "fabulous" new jobs should support a family.

Well before then.

I seem to recall such ******** taking off when folks forgot state was a delegate and anything but an authority.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Well before then.

I seem to recall such ******** taking off when folks forgot state was a delegate and anything but an authority.

I suppose I just remember clearly being smacked in the face with it.

 

[actaeon277]

Does anybody even share "Animal Farm" with younger people today?

I think quite a few books are being left out.
Including some non-fiction history.

 

[rooster]

Did you ever have to get ppp funds? Do you run a business? It is not just filling out "paperwork" you have to show loss of income 30% on P&L sheets and bank statements.

Im not for goverment giving this money away but when goverment forces my business to close for 8 weeks and lets walmart stay open that f***** p***** me off. But yet i have no risk? Thats laughable.

Since they made me close for said covid scamdemic then they will pay for it.

Coronavirus: Guide to Federal Small Business Stimulus Aid Programs

Everything you need to know about three new pieces of federal legislation, including the CARES Act, designed to assist businesses during the coronavirus crisis.

www.google.com

Restaurant revitalization program grants for amount equal to 2019 revenue. No repayment required

How to Apply for a Restaurant Revitalization Fund Grant

Find out who is eligible for Restaurant Revitalization Fund grants, how and when you can apply, what the grants can be used for and how much money is available.

www.uschamber.com

Covid impact loans: rates lower than my mortgage may be forgivable with proper paperwork abd

COVID-19 Economic Injury Disaster Loan | U.S. Small Business Administration

www.sba.gov

Employee retention tax credit: 28k a year per employee tax credit if you experience 20% decline in revenue. Free money

And let’s not forget the PPP. 10 mil limit on first draw 2 mil on second. Forgivable (free money) in full if used for payroll, rents, utilities, and a whole bunch more.

now the individual got a couple grand.they were told to live on their savings, Less than 10% income replacement really. I’m still waiting for my 100k individual protection loan forgivable if I use for rent, food, utilities or my loan to renovate my house that’s forgivable. businesses were handed out free money at a level that they love to say is socialism if given to individuals.

the government forced most families to make one parent stay home. No daycare, no schools. They effectively closed down 1/2 of my income. I got pennies in return.

do I run a business? Yes I run one with p/l responsibility and own my own small business as well. The difference in my attitude is that I can open my eyes and see the difference in treatment of effected individuals and businesses by gov without my bias.

individuals have risk. .gov literally said if you don’t have savings then you can just starve while you wait for food stamps to get approved.

who thinks income replacement loans to individuals that are forgivable if used for rent, food are socialism???? If that’s socialism then why should businesses get it?

 

[rooster]

Stock market doesn’t care about jobs reports because the fed has been buying (ETF’s) since mid 2020. Fed couldn’t let public companies fail so during the crash they bought ETF’s that then bought stocks and stopped the crash.

where does everyone think all that newly printed money went?

the system is rigged in favor of businesses, to hell with the individual. All the smart people who went short the market before covid became official got rug pulled because the government changed the rules in favor of business. Nothing has changed. That’s why spy is 422 instead of 120.

The Fed has bought $8.7 billion worth of ETFs. Here are the details

The central bank may have achieved market stability and investor confidence without actually opening its pocketbook too much, one analysis finds.

www.google.com

 

[IndyDave1776]

In general, steel mill.
More specifically, maintenance. Electrical or Mechanical.
Production people have to be trained for their machine or process.
But maintenance has to know at least the basics, before working or training.

Apparently, huge machinery, loud noises, and heat, scare the trainees in the week safety class. Maybe it's one week. Don't know. They didn't have it when I started.
But too many noobs getting injured.

One wonders how the little pansies would deal with life on a submarine.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Coronavirus: Guide to Federal Small Business Stimulus Aid Programs

Everything you need to know about three new pieces of federal legislation, including the CARES Act, designed to assist businesses during the coronavirus crisis.

www.google.com

Restaurant revitalization program grants for amount equal to 2019 revenue. No repayment required

How to Apply for a Restaurant Revitalization Fund Grant

Find out who is eligible for Restaurant Revitalization Fund grants, how and when you can apply, what the grants can be used for and how much money is available.

www.uschamber.com

Covid impact loans: rates lower than my mortgage may be forgivable with proper paperwork abd

COVID-19 Economic Injury Disaster Loan | U.S. Small Business Administration

www.sba.gov

Employee retention tax credit: 28k a year per employee tax credit if you experience 20% decline in revenue. Free money

And let’s not forget the PPP. 10 mil limit on first draw 2 mil on second. Forgivable (free money) in full if used for payroll, rents, utilities, and a whole bunch more.

now the individual got a couple grand.they were told to live on their savings, Less than 10% income replacement really. I’m still waiting for my 100k individual protection loan forgivable if I use for rent, food, utilities or my loan to renovate my house that’s forgivable. businesses were handed out free money at a level that they love to say is socialism if given to individuals.

the government forced most families to make one parent stay home. No daycare, no schools. They effectively closed down 1/2 of my income. I got pennies in return.

do I run a business? Yes I run one with p/l responsibility and own my own small business as well. The difference in my attitude is that I can open my eyes and see the difference in treatment of effected individuals and businesses by gov without my bias.

individuals have risk. .gov literally said if you don’t have savings then you can just starve while you wait for food stamps to get approved.

who thinks income replacement loans to individuals that are forgivable if used for rent, food are socialism???? If that’s socialism then why should businesses get it?

I would take a step back and ask where the Constitution authorizes any of this including businesses being shut down by the .gov.

 

[sparky32]

Individuals w2 employess in this " Pandemic" qualified for 600$ + 390$ unemployment sitting at home for months. What do you mean non business owners getting nothing? As of now some people are still getting 700 bucks a week sitting at home for over a year!!!

Lets go ahead ahead and get that 15$ dollar minimum wage and see your value meal go from 6$ to 10$. It will be passed onto the consumer is all that will happen.