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  • HCRMPD1

    Marksman
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    49   1   0
    Jan 4, 2012
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    Shelbyville
    This may have been covered somewhere else in this forum, but I have just got off of the telephone with a friend of mine concerning his firearm that he is trying to sell. He bought a weapon during a time when our government decided to ban certain types of weapons (i.e.: causing the price to hyper-inflate). He is now upset that some people are trying to "low-ball" him on the gun.

    I am running out of breath trying to explain to him a few simple rules of buying and selling.
    1.) Most people, including me, could care less what he paid for the gun. If he paid too much that is his problem.
    2.) Kelly Blue Book is a guide, not a guarenteed value determiner.
    3.) If I am buying and have the cash in hand, you are trying to sell me something. If you are trying to sell it, you need or want the money not the gun. The gun may have sentimental value to you, but to me it is a tool or a toy for my enjoyment. The gun is worth what someone is willing to pay for it at the time they offer you the money; there is always the exception - the person that offers you a $50 bill for a perfectly good HK, S & W, Glock, Remington, etc. (You get the point).
    4.) If I am selling it, I reserve the right to be laughed at for over pricing it if I choose, as it is my property.
    5.) Everyone has either watched Pawn Stars or have heard of them. Negotiation is just a part of it.
    6.) If you are buying a gun for collecting or an investment then research the gun first....don't take someone at their word...they're tyring to sell you something.

    Simply put, they're guns not gold. Treat them with respect, but don't make them out to be something that they're not.

    I'll get off my soapbox now.
     

    Darral27

    Shooter
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    27   0   0
    Aug 13, 2011
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    Elwood
    You said it best with #3. If you are selling something it is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it. You can take that or leave it. Market always determines value.
     

    D2VW14_20

    Sharpshooter
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    23   0   0
    Nov 24, 2010
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    16
    Scottsburg In
    I like some of the stuff even in the classifieds going for more then LGS have new stuff for, or even the same price. If I want to pay retail or even close to it, I might as well buy from my LGS and keep the rapport with them. 10 shots fired, or 500, its used.
     

    nipprdog

    Grandmaster
    Site Supporter
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    36   0   0
    Jan 11, 2009
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    Tippecanoe county
    A coworker of mine paid $1500 for a colt 6920 a few years ago during the 2008 election scare. He now knows that he got hosed, and should have bought one earlier. But, he won't lose money on it, because he'll never sell it. But, I give him credit for admitting the error of his ways. ;)
     

    D2VW14_20

    Sharpshooter
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    23   0   0
    Nov 24, 2010
    489
    16
    Scottsburg In
    I am a free market fan. Let's me try and sell for as much as I can get and allows me to buy for as low as I can.

    Market determines value, anything else is socialism.

    I agree market determines value. But some people through market to the wayside and bought a $500 gun 4 years ago and want to get a $650 gun now and try to fund their new purchase almost 100%. Then, if you send them an offer with other prices (gunbroker, LGS, etc) they get ticked.
     

    Wild Deuce

    Master
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    26   0   0
    Dec 2, 2009
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    Some people think along the lines of ... "It's gold, not a Gun." Which is, of course, an entirely different thread.
     

    witdog2020

    Plinker
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    6   0   0
    Jan 19, 2012
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    18
    Muncie
    There are many guns that the Blue Book prices under Market value for this area. Ruger 10/22 almost bring new price, due to the old guns having metal barrel bands and trigger guards.
    Remington 572 pumps had so many problems with the forearms cracking that if you find a gun in good condition it will probably bring 100% or more easy enough.

    AR's are flooded in the market right now, with Bushmaster optic ready being sold every couple weeks on sale at Dunhams for $$649, OR $700 for the carbine with carry handle. Now obviously there are a lot of upgrades sometimes not recognized in the values.

    I been pricing Rifles, and some people are asking more than I can buy it new. If they can get it fine, I just move on. Its not whats its worth, its what you can sell it for.
     

    Joseph

    Plinker
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    6   0   0
    Jan 19, 2012
    135
    16
    cambridge city
    Ya certain classified sites on the interwebs is a perfect example, if I can buy a bone stock gen3 glock new for 500 why post it for 550, a lot of people say well it's because of the night sights, I'm my opinion you are buying the firearm not what the person has done to it. I understand the whole dickering process but I was not raised that way. Am a fair guy so when I am selling something I just look up what people are paying for it used ie certain auction websites or I will ask around to friends that have one used and see what they gave for it. That's just me anyway.
     

    GBuck

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    54   0   0
    Jul 18, 2011
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    Franklin
    The one that kills me is all the people that sell Glocks (whatever) for $50 less than new. Oh, you have a Glock with 500 rounds through it for $450? Why would I pay that when I can get one for $50 more and not have to worry what your grubby hands have done with it. It's a lot like the guy that sells his glock for $500 because he has a holster for it. Really? I probably won't like the holster anyways.
     

    yenningcomity

    Marksman
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    7   0   0
    Dec 5, 2009
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    I will second the guys who sell it with the holster and expect it to be worth more. They are better off selling them separately. I never have any interest in the holsters. The same goes for guys who sell a gun with 10 mags that cost a small fortune.
     
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