The secret registration of gun owners

[Racechase1]

This is in Missouri, but it could be happening everywhere.

Missouri Lt. Gov, Senator Expose Possible Backdoor Gun Registry

 

[femurphy77]

Probably not the first example of this happening. Probably just the first one to be exposed.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Most any scheme of background checks, mandatory on-record only transfers, or possession tax on guns is likely to result in a database/trick-or-treat list, with the only real question being that of when they may choose to go trick-or-treating. Also significant is that the state and local governments will generally grab their ankles for some of Uncle Sugar's money which, in turn, was stolen from us. Yes, stolen. The Constitution authorizes the federal government to levy taxes for the purpose of paying to do those things it is constitutionally authorized to do. I have not found the passage in the Constitution authorizing the federal government to bribe/extort states into compliance with its extraconstitutional whims.

 

[upalot]

You can count on anytime your name is entered into a computer that the info will be stored some place that .gov can later pull up to use against you. Most likely why they built that really big computer center in Utah.

 

[Jarhead77]

Wow. What next? Can we be in the same boat?

 

[jedi]

Wow��. What next? Can we be in the same boat?

We **ARE** in the same boat as the Gov. M. Daniels elected to go along with the feds REAL ID program.

 

[EnochRoot43]

Haven't 4473's been collected from out-of-business FFL's for years? Basic logic suggests that valuable intel is collected, not destroyed. So, I imagine these have all been scanned and cataloged already.

But hey, I would also assume that activity in the "Classifieds" section of this, and every other similar forum is saved and cataloged as well.

Some bureaucrats have extremely boring jobs.

 

[jedi]

Haven't 4473's been collected from out-of-business FFL's for years? Basic logic suggests that valuable intel is collected, not destroyed. So, I imagine these have all been scanned and cataloged already.

But hey, I would also assume that activity in the "Classifieds" section of this, and every other similar forum is saved and cataloged as well.

Some bureaucrats have extremely boring jobs.

Yes they are collected and while the .gov has NOT said they are in a DB at ATF you can bet that they are.

 

[HenryWallace]

Anyone who's ever had a charge washed away by the deferral program should know that it never ever leaves your record. I have a few inside people that have demonstrated this to me. It will always show up, it's just that you're not able to be brought back up on the same charges in an open setting.
The same must be known that EVERY time someone calls in a 'check' on you, it is being recorded. What happens to those lists will remain a mystery until they need it to press you into a hole.
if you follow the news coherently you will also know that everything posted, emailed, or discussed via the internet is recorded and is seen as legal documentation.
Years ago ALL server holders and suppliers were told that the amount of time that they were legally bound by law to hold information on private citizens was increased to 6 months. We were all taxed in turn by our internet providers to accomplish this task.
Don't be surprised by the facts. Don't shy away from the conversation. Live knowing that the more they hear, the more fear they feel. So here's to you three letter organizations..!..

 

[LEaSH]

Total Information Awareness is a very old - supposedly defunct program that never got the funding that the criminal element of the government got approval for.

Don't think for a second that it hasn't lived on and evolved with the technology over the past 20 some years.

 

[EnochRoot43]

 

[HenryWallace]

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