The elite who secretly run the world: The Bilderberg Group

[rambone]

Vice President Joe Biden

The Vice President himself is a CFR member and a Bilderberg attendee.

A man who titles his articles and speeches explicitly with the words New World Order.


"How I Learned to Love the New World Order" - by Joseph R. Biden Jr.

“On the Threshold of the New World Order: A Rebirth for the United Nations” - Speech by Joe Biden

 

[jblomenberg16]

In fairness, many claim that the US Dollar bill alludes to a "New World Order" long before the Build-a-bear group got together in 1954. That doesn't mean they couldn't be remnants of other NWO groups from earlier times, but the topic has certainly been around for much longer than the recent meetings.

"Novus Ordo Seclorum" is on each and every 1 dollar bill and on the back of the Seal of the United States and can be translated as "New Order of the Ages" or "New World Order."

Novus ordo seclorum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[rambone]

George W. Bush

What about Bush? His White House was packed with these people too.

GWB himself was a Skull & Bones member.

The National Committee on Homeland Security was composed of a majority of CFR members.
Homeland Security Act and the CFR

Secretary of State Condaleeza Rice was a Bilderberg member.
Secretary of Defense Colin Powell was a Bilderberg member.
Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson was a Bilderberg member.

Here's Bush's Fed Chairman attending Bilderberg. Ben Bernanke, also a CFR member.

That's just off the top of my head.

 

[96firephoenix]

the rich and famous gather to talk secretly! Maybe they are talking about how to run the world in their favor, or maybe they're having a talk about how to get the economy out of a crisis or maybe they're having a talk about who is cheating on who's wife. Do you examine every secret society with the same scrutiny? maybe the Bildeberger group is the modern illuminati or the modern knights templar... who knows?!

maybe they're just having crazy masked sex parties like the one in the movie "eye's wide shut"

Pale nimbus...

back to back references to 2 of the most effed-up-yet-well-made movies of the 90s. this thread is epic in its own right.

as for the latin, I believe that "Novus Ordo Seclorum" means "New order of the world" and "N.O Saeculorum" means "N.O of the ages"

 

[Grizhicks]

As UncleMike said, this is about 20-30 years old news.....

 

[rambone]

As UncleMike said, this is about 20-30 years old news.....

They just met over the weekend. Doesn't seem like old news. Share your wisdom from 30 years ago. A lot of people are interested.

 

[Bill of Rights]

...The people who really control things stay behind the curtain and aren't subject to public scrutiny....

One problem, Rambone... They're not behind any curtain. You yourself quoted a list of titles... unless the Bilderbergs, the CFR, and the TriLaterals are just a front and the REAL "people behind the curtain" aren't this group at all, but a group whose names no one knows...

The theories can go on forever. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you, but just because you don't know something doesn't mean you have a reason to be paranoid. (note that I'm speaking generally, not calling you personally a paranoid.)

Blessings,
Bill

 

[UncleMike]

They just met over the weekend. Doesn't seem like old news. Share your wisdom from 30 years ago. A lot of people are interested.

Read my previous post!!!
I spelled out quite clearly the information that came out over 40 years ago concerning The Bilderberg Group.
Of course the facts don't jive with your loony conspiracy theories so you wouldn't be interested in them.

 

[22lr]

Read my previous post!!!
I spelled out quite clearly the information that came out over 40 years ago concerning The Bilderberg Group.
Of course the facts don't jive with your loony conspiracy theories so you wouldn't be interested in them.

Those pesky facts........ always getting in the way.

 

[rambone]

Think about it: Why would those who truly have the desire and ability to rule the world have to leave the comforts of their homes to travel? Why could they not simply make a conference call? Do you really think that such would be beyond their scope?

Its not beyond their scope at all. But the meeting lasts for around 3 days, so there are the impracticalities hosting long conference calls. Then you are messing up the dynamics of the meeting, the presentation, the speeches. Lastly, a conference call with 140 members listening would be problematic for security reasons. Hosting meeting in person with ultra-tight security makes sense for their purposes.

Read my previous post!!!
I spelled out quite clearly the information that came out over 40 years ago concerning The Bilderberg Group.
Of course the facts don't jive with your loony conspiracy theories so you wouldn't be interested in them.

Mike, thank you for your opinions. You did not source anything other than you heard it in grade school. I'm open to reading your source.

If its a theory, that's cool too. Lets think about it...

You just discovered the Bilderberg Group???
People from my Generation have known about them since Grade School.
We were told back then that they were a group that was formed to deflect blame for the Worlds problems from the Governments, to a "Secret Society".
The reasoning is that "Secret Societies" can't be toppled like poorly run Governments.
So.
The Governments of Europe conjured up The Bilderberg Group as a scapegoat for their troubles.
It was an attempt to blame "The Boogymen" for problems created by crappy rulers.
It allows crappy Governments to point fingers and say "It's not MY fault. It's THEM!!!
Kinda like Hitler blaming all of Germanys problems on the Jews during the 1930's.

Your theory is that the Bilderberg Group is harmless, and that the World is tumbling toward Fabian Socialism all by accident. Gary Allen calls this the "Accidental Theory" of history. My theory is that there is more to it than just a bunch of coincidences all driving us steadily towards totalitarianism.

When you think about it, there are really only two theories of history. Either things happen by accident neither planned nor caused by anybody, or they happen because they are planned and somebody causes them to happen. In reality, it is the "accidental theory of history" preached in the unhallowed Halls of Ivy which should be ridiculed.

Otherwise, why does every recent administration make the same mistakes as the previous ones? Why do they repeat the errors of the past which produce inflation, depressions and war? Why does our State Department "stumble" from one Communist-aiding "blunder" to another?

If you believe it is all an accident or the result of mysterious and unexplainable tides of history, you will be regarded as an "intellectual" who understands that we live in a complex world. If you believe that something like 32,496 consecutive coincidences over the past forty years stretches the law of averages a bit, you are a kook!'

(Gary Allen, 1971 - None Dare Call it Conspiracy, Chapter 1)​

 

[UncleMike]

Those pesky facts........ always getting in the way.

Yeah...........
Facts are the bane of Conspiracy Nuts and Politicians.

Not referring to anyone in particular here.
I certainly don't want to insult any members who are Politicians.

 

[steveh_131]

One problem, Rambone... They're not behind any curtain. You yourself quoted a list of titles... unless the Bilderbergs, the CFR, and the TriLaterals are just a front and the REAL "people behind the curtain" aren't this group at all, but a group whose names no one knows...

Blessings,
Bill

The fact that it a tiny fraction has been exposed does not disprove the existence of a conspiracy.

Read my previous post!!!
I spelled out quite clearly the information that came out over 40 years ago concerning The Bilderberg Group.
Of course the facts don't jive with your loony conspiracy theories so you wouldn't be interested in them.

I'd like to read your "Facts" regarding the Bilderberg Group. I await your information and sources with great anticipation. Should I hold my breath? Or should I just accept that you will never understand the definition of the word "fact"?

 

[dross]

The fact that it a tiny fraction has been exposed does not disprove the existence of a conspiracy.

It's impossible to prove there is no conspiracy - you can't prove a negative. The responsibility is for those who allege a conspiracy to prove one.

There is not one shred of evidence of a conspiracy here.

A few years ago everyone in my tennis club KNEW I was sleeping with my mixed doubles partner. We were constantly together, we obviously liked each other, I had a reputation with the ladies, we flirted with each other a lot, we were constantly traveling together to tournaments, we often stayed late in the club having drinks.

Only an idiot could refuse to believe that we were having an affair. Except we weren't. I still have some close friends who wink and smile about that and are quite sure that I'm just being a gentlemen with my denials. Only it never happened.

YOU make the accusation, YOU have to prove it. Innuendo and opportunity do not a conspiracy make.

 

[UncleMike]

Its not beyond their scope at all. But the meeting lasts for around 3 days, so there are the impracticalities hosting long conference calls. Then you are messing up the dynamics of the meeting, the presentation, the speeches. Lastly, a conference call with 140 members listening would be problematic for security reasons. Hosting meeting in person with ultra-tight security makes sense for their purposes.




Mike, thank you for your opinions. You did not source anything other than you heard it in grade school. I'm open to reading your source.

If its a theory, that's cool too. Lets think about it...



Your theory is that the Bilderberg Group is harmless, and that the World is tumbling toward Fabian Socialism all by accident. Gary Allen calls this the "Accidental Theory" of history. My theory is that there is more to it than just a bunch of coincidences all driving us steadily towards totalitarianism.

When you think about it, there are really only two theories of history. Either things happen by accident neither planned nor caused by anybody, or they happen because they are planned and somebody causes them to happen. In reality, it is the "accidental theory of history" preached in the unhallowed Halls of Ivy which should be ridiculed.​

Otherwise, why does every recent administration make the same mistakes as the previous ones? Why do they repeat the errors of the past which produce inflation, depressions and war? Why does our State Department "stumble" from one Communist-aiding "blunder" to another? ​

If you believe it is all an accident or the result of mysterious and unexplainable tides of history, you will be regarded as an "intellectual" who understands that we live in a complex world. If you believe that something like 32,496 consecutive coincidences over the past forty years stretches the law of averages a bit, you are a kook!' ​

(Gary Allen, 1971 - None Dare Call it Conspiracy, Chapter 1)​

I've neither seen, nor heard, anything during the subsequent four + decades that would refute the explanation that I was given then.
Consider the following;
1. Most, if not all, of the founders of the Bilderberg Group are dead.
2. The Bilderberg Group has had fifty seven years to enact their "nefarious" scheme.
3. One would think that at some point in over half a century it would dawn on the leadership of this "insidious" group that they are not having much success reaching their alleged goal of a New World Order.
4. Or perhaps they have reached their goal and we all are being manipulated by them from decisions made at their "secret" meetings that the ENTIRE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT!!!!
If I were running a group that decided the fate of the Planet I sure as Hell wouldn't let people know where, and when, I'm holding my meetings.

 

[rambone]

One problem, Rambone... They're not behind any curtain. You yourself quoted a list of titles... unless the Bilderbergs, the CFR, and the TriLaterals are just a front and the REAL "people behind the curtain" aren't this group at all, but a group whose names no one knows...

Yes but how many State of the Union addresses have they given? Does the public focus their anger at them or at the puppet President? That's the idea -- people criticize the front-man, and most people don't even know about the groups that overwhelmingly fill the White House.

The elite are still sufficiently obscured behind the scenes, and Americans still continuously battle back and forth over which Establishment candidate is the best. So who's gonna save America? CFR member Newt Gingrich? CFR member Rudy Guiliani? CFR/Bilderberg member Rick Perry?

The curtain is pretty tight, but even with a marginal level of exposure, these groups are still free to control the White House without the slightest bit of reaction from the sleeping public.

And the few who are aware of them either don't care or just get mocked out of the room. So the public stays asleep and makes CFR member Mitt Romney the next president. "Anybody but Obama," right? Another cycle goes to the Establishment, and America continues to die a slow death.

 

[steveh_131]

It's impossible to prove there is no conspiracy - you can't prove a negative. The responsibility is for those who allege a conspiracy to prove one.

There is not one shred of evidence of a conspiracy here.

A few years ago everyone in my tennis club KNEW I was sleeping with my mixed doubles partner. We were constantly together, we obviously liked each other, I had a reputation with the ladies, we flirted with each other a lot, we were constantly traveling together to tournaments, we often stayed late in the club having drinks.

Only an idiot could refuse to believe that we were having an affair. Except we weren't. I still have some close friends who wink and smile about that and are quite sure that I'm just being a gentlemen with my denials. Only it never happened.

YOU make the accusation, YOU have to prove it. Innuendo and opportunity do not a conspiracy make.

I never said there was definitely a conspiracy. I was simply pointing out that it shouldn't be ruled out as a possibility just because a few of the members have been identified. And there is no good reason to ridicule the idea or ridicule those who care to investigate it.

My condolences about your tennis partner.

 

[UncleMike]

The fact that it a tiny fraction has been exposed does not disprove the existence of a conspiracy.



I'd like to read your "Facts" regarding the Bilderberg Group. I await your information and sources with great anticipation. Should I hold my breath? Or should I just accept that you will never understand the definition of the word "fact"?

Hmm........
Personal insults.
How unusual for you.

 

[Garb]

It's impossible to prove there is no conspiracy - you can't prove a negative. The responsibility is for those who allege a conspiracy to prove one.

There is not one shred of evidence of a conspiracy here.

A few years ago everyone in my tennis club KNEW I was sleeping with my mixed doubles partner. We were constantly together, we obviously liked each other, I had a reputation with the ladies, we flirted with each other a lot, we were constantly traveling together to tournaments, we often stayed late in the club having drinks.

Only an idiot could refuse to believe that we were having an affair. Except we weren't. I still have some close friends who wink and smile about that and are quite sure that I'm just being a gentlemen with my denials. Only it never happened.

YOU make the accusation, YOU have to prove it. Innuendo and opportunity do not a conspiracy make.

dross, you should really quit bragging about sleeping with your mixed doubles tennis partner. We all know you did it.

 

[dross]

dross, you should really quit bragging about sleeping with your mixed doubles tennis partner. We all know you did it.

Only a fool would think otherwise.

 

[Garb]

In response to Rambone's assessment of the Bilderberg group, I don't see it quite as he does. Many see them as being so influential that everything that's misleading to the American people is part of their plan. It's a natural human tendency for humans to want power over others. Historically, governments that have preserved the freedom of their citizens have deteriorated to make way for a more controlling government. To put it simply, order, if left unattended, leads to chaos. The only thing that leads to true order is if everyone were responsible and kind, which we know isn't true. It's not that this deterioration is accidental, it's that it's natural. History is repeating itself because it can not do otherwise. Does that mean we should accept it? Hell no. Does that mean there is no one behind the scenes pulling the strings? Not at all. They are doing what most humans do, just on a bigger scale. That doesn't necessarily mean they have unlimited power or influence.