The elite who secretly run the world: The Bilderberg Group

[steveh_131]

Hmm........
Personal insults.
How unusual for you.

It's not an insult. It's a fact.

 

[rambone]

2. The Bilderberg Group has had fifty seven years to enact their "nefarious" scheme.
3. One would think that at some point in over half a century it would dawn on the leadership of this "insidious" group that they are [STRIKE]not having much success [/STRIKE] reaching their alleged goal of a New World Order.
4. Or perhaps they have reached their goal and we all are being manipulated by them from decisions made at their "secret" meetings that the ENTIRE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT!!!!

This.

Mike you nailed it. The process takes time. Free people don't vote themselves into servitude overnight.

Look at how far the country has fallen in 57 years. Look at how much freedom that our secret-society attending, globalist presidents have taken away from us. Look at how much socialism we have adopted and how much debt we have accrued. Look at the power that the Federal Government has amassed.

Mike, the country is careening off a cliff.

People like Robert Welch accurately detailed this process decades ago. It has happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Du2c3cQ5K4

 

[UncleMike]

This.

Mike you nailed it. The process takes time. Free people don't vote themselves into servitude overnight.

Look at how far the country has fallen in 57 years. Look at how much freedom that our secret-society attending, globalist presidents have taken away from us. Look at how much socialism we have adopted and how much debt we have accrued. Look at the power that the Federal Government has amassed.

Mike, the country is careening off a cliff.

People like Robert Welch accurately detailed this process decades ago. It has happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Du2c3cQ5K4

Yeah!
And in another half century we'll all be under their thumbs.
I'll tell ya what.
If they're that damn patient they deserve to run the World.

 

[Flintlock]

Looks like a page out of the Weekly World News to me.

 

[dom1104]

"Queen of the Netherlands"

Well. I'm sold. That Queen of the Netherlands is one powerful beotch.

Anything she is involved in has GOT to be evil.

<edit: Holy crap, she looks eerily similar to my mother in law.. who is Dutch. ..........weird......>

 

[Lead Head]

The only way to break them is to have a long lasting, peaceful, historic world-wide work stoppage. Yes this is a very bleak concept but this is where strength in numbers will prevail.

Yeah, I know. It won't happen. It's just something to ponder. More 50,000 foot view stuff. Atlas Shrug III.

Instead, they allow us to get a few crumbs and believe that voting actually makes a difference. Same ****, different day. The fix is in, again.

Pepsi or Coke ? Whatever.......

Circling the Drain !

 

[dross]

I'm still waiting for one spec of proof.

 

[phylodog]

I'm still waiting for one spec of proof.

What's proof got to do with laying blame?

 

[rjstew317]

so, is Rambone really Alex Jones?

 

[UncleMike]

I'm still waiting for one spec of proof.

Proof??
Proof??
He don't need no stinkin proof!!

(Apologies to John Huston for messing up one of the great movie lines of all time.)

What's proof got to do with laying blame?

See above.

 

[dross]

Proof??
Proof??
He don't need no stinkin proof!!

(Apologies to John Huston for messing up one of the great movie lines of all time.)



See above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdZKCh6RsU&feature=related

 

[UncleMike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdZKCh6RsU&feature=related

And!!!
http://youtu.be/gx6TBrfCW54

 

[rambone]

You can't handle the truth!!

I'm still waiting for one spec of proof.

What does proof look like when we are discussing presence of the New World Order? I'd like to say, "open a newspaper and see for yourself." But instead, will admission from the participants suffice?

Let me start by submitting quotes from the less secretive (but equally destructive) Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), which openly advocates One World Government at the cost of U.S. sovereignty.

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government."
- Rear Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member


"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common—they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR . . . comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government."
- Rear Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member


“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England… (and) …believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established.”
- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, & mentor to Bill Clinton


“For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country the USA. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts his political ‘ammunition’ as it were was carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group.”
- Curtis B. Dall, President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law


“Let us face reality. The framers (of the Constitution) have simply been too shrewd for us. They have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages frail bridges(or) tinkering. If we are to turn the founders upside down… we must directly confront the Constitutional structure they erected.”
- James MacGregor Burns, CFR member, 1984


“The sovereignty fetish is still so strong in the public mind that there would appear to be little chance of winning popular assent to American membership in anything approaching a super-state organization. Much will depend on the kind of approach which is used in further popular education.”
- 1944 Council on Foreign Relations Report


“We shall have World Government whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
- James Paul Warburg, Statement made before the U.S. Senate on 2/7/1950.
(son of Paul Warburg who wrote the Federal Reserve Act; and nephew of Max Warburg who financed Hitler)


“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – One World if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, CFR member & Bilderberg Member, from his Memoirs in 2002


“We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.”
- Arthur Schlesinger Jr., in Jul/Aug 1995 issue of CFR's journal, Foreign Affairs


“The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down…but in the end run around national sovereignty eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault.”
- Richard Gardner, CFR member, in April 1974 issue of the CFR’s journal Foreign Affairs

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And after analyzing all these testimonials about the mission of the CFR, take note of the influence that the CFR has on the White House.

CFR Influence in Government, Media, & Business -- Modern History Project

From 1928-72, nine out of twelve Republican Presidential nominees were CFR members. From 1952-72, CFR members were elected four out of six times. During three separate campaigns, both the Republican and Democratic nominee were, or had been a member. Since World War II, practically every Presidential candidate, with the exception of Johnson, Goldwater, and Reagan, have been members.

... And while Reagan wasn't a CFR member, he appointed 75 of them to run his administration.

Also for reference, here is a site that has been documenting the history of the CFR member roster.

Another useful link:
Council on Foreign Relations & Shadow Government

 

[dross]

If you think what you have produced is proof, you don't understand what the word means.

 

[Garb]

If you think what you have produced is proof, you don't understand what the word means.

I'm not necessarily taking Rambone's side on this one, but what would be proof to you? I'm just curious.

 

[Pocketman]

This forum, like the rest of the internet, is an integral part of the new world order.

"The times they are a-changin' " - Bob Dylan

 

[dross]

I'm not necessarily taking Rambone's side on this one, but what would be proof to you? I'm just curious.

Upthread, I used the analogy of the affair everyone KNEW I had. I wasn't just taking an opportunity to share my personal life, I was actually using it to illustrate the point.

To prove I was having an affair - meaning a sexual relationship - you have to have proof of sex, or at least something tangible like a hotel room rented for two hours every Weds afternoon. All the other stuff is just conjecture based on the way something "looks."

The problem Rambone is having trying to prove there is a conspiracy is that all the evidence he's presenting could also be used to support the official explanation of what these groups are doing.

Then there's a leap that since (and this is far from indisputable) we've tended toward a certain direction then that's an explanation that the World is moving along according to some master plan.

Show me where these people have agreed on a plan, show me how they've acted according to that plan.

I don't doubt these people influence each other and that influence may guide some of their future actions. The same could be said for INGO.

Show me that decisions are made, people are given marching orders, and they carry out those orders. Actual evidence, not innuendo.

 

[Garb]

Upthread, I used the analogy of the affair everyone KNEW I had. I wasn't just taking an opportunity to share my personal life, I was actually using it to illustrate the point.

To prove I was having an affair - meaning a sexual relationship - you have to have proof of sex, or at least something tangible like a hotel room rented for two hours every Weds afternoon. All the other stuff is just conjecture based on the way something "looks."

The problem Rambone is having trying to prove there is a conspiracy is that all the evidence he's presenting could also be used to support the official explanation of what these groups are doing.

Then there's a leap that since (and this is far from indisputable) we've tended toward a certain direction then that's an explanation that the World is moving along according to some master plan.

Show me where these people have agreed on a plan, show me how they've acted according to that plan.

I don't doubt these people influence each other and that influence may guide some of their future actions. The same could be said for INGO.

Show me that decisions are made, people are given marching orders, and they carry out those orders. Actual evidence, not innuendo.

Ok I see your point. That's kind of similar to the argument I made earlier about the erosion of freedom being a natural part of living as a citizen (of any country, no exceptions), so I guess this is the logic behind that argument. However, I do believe the Bilderbergs exist, and I do believe they have influence, but probably not as much as Rambone is suggesting. Maybe I'm being optimistic though.

 

[CarmelHP]

If you think what you have produced is proof, you don't understand what the word means.

Out of rep, but rep worthy.

 

[rambone]

Upthread, I used the analogy of the affair everyone KNEW I had. I wasn't just taking an opportunity to share my personal life, I was actually using it to illustrate the point.

To prove I was having an affair - meaning a sexual relationship - you have to have proof of sex, or at least something tangible like a hotel room rented for two hours every Weds afternoon. All the other stuff is just conjecture based on the way something "looks."

What if you wrote articles about the affair, had many quotes regarding the existence of the affair, your own published sex journal mentions key points of the affair.... Is that not compelling evidence?

You might as well ask me to prove that Karl Marx was part of the communist movement, but disregard everything he wrote and said.

Show me where these people have agreed on a plan, show me how they've acted according to that plan.

I don't doubt these people influence each other and that influence may guide some of their future actions. The same could be said for INGO.

Show me that decisions are made, people are given marching orders, and they carry out those orders. Actual evidence, not innuendo.

I don't presume that the group has a hierarchy in which some leader gets to boss around the most powerful people in the world. You don't give marching orders to the ruling-class elite. Influence is what's being spread.