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suppressed revolver
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Grandmaster
Gotta love that gas seal! Ironically, I have a copy of the old Assault on Precinct 13 movie, they have supressed revolvers (gang members) but they arent Nagants. Yeay Hollywood!
KAC experimented with one back in the early 90's I think. Was supposed to be pretty good if I remember right.
Bob
Bob
CountryBoy19
Grandmaster
Affirmative, if I'm not mistaken, it was the most quiet of any repeating firearm ever produced.
Let me see if I can maybe get some pictures of it (I've got a couple connections).
VUPDblue
Silencers Have NEVER Been Illegal !
The guy who owns those videos posts on TFL. He seems quite smitten with that setup. That said, he bought a standalone M79 just for grins. He's my kinda dude 
With a bit of good machining and some moonclips, that gun could be modified to shoot 9mm. Just food for thought, but that would be kinda cool.
With a bit of good machining and some moonclips, that gun could be modified to shoot 9mm. Just food for thought, but that would be kinda cool.
CountryBoy19
Grandmaster
Ok, here is the Knight's Armament Revolver. Pretty sweet looking if you ask me. I believe this was made for some special weapons programs for one of the armed services. I don't really know the details.
It wasn't a .44 . It was some kind of wildcat AP rifle round I believe.
Bob
Bob
IndyGunworks
Grandmaster
CountryBoy19
Grandmaster
The idea was to have a quiet repeating rifle. So you're basically limited to revolver or semi-auto. Revolver is obviously much more quite than semi-auto.
shooter521
Certified Glock Nut
IME, it *is* pretty easy to find (the shop where I work has scads of the HotShot commercial stuff on hand at any given time, and many online retailers carry it as well). That said, it isn't cheap, and it is most certainly not "standard 7.62x25" as the previous poster claimed...
shooter521
Certified Glock Nut
Here's another suppressed revolver - this one built on an S&W 625 for the German SEK back in the early 1990s.
The Knight's gun was based on the Ruger GP-100, and was available in a couple different configurations:
The Knight's gun was based on the Ruger GP-100, and was available in a couple different configurations:
IME, it *is* pretty easy to find (the shop where I work has scads of the HotShot commercial stuff on hand at any given time, and many online retailers carry it as well). That said, it isn't cheap, and it is most certainly not "standard 7.62x25" as the previous poster claimed...
Hot Shot Ammunition 7.62mm Russian Nagant 98 Grain Jacketed Flat Point Box of 50 - $23.49 (In Stock)
.50/round is not great, but for a $80 gun...
And you guys are missing the whole point here. Who cares if someone threw a wad of money into producing the perfect suppressed revolver that failed in the market place.
No, no, no.
The junk $80 revolver, used because of a quark in it's design, that is of severe tactical questionability, and that is over 100 years old?
It's poetry! It's like a Russian Engineer's Haiku, or a Sonnet done by a Stalingrad political officer, or some kind of strange mix up commercial with the tag line "You've got your Nagant in my Suppressor - No, you've got your Suppressor on my Nagant!"
Come on, it is the 2002 Winner of the Bubba Applied Engineering award!
It's beautiful.
CountryBoy19
Grandmaster
I may be mistaken because I'm not a part of either of the companies that designed them, but I don't think any (at least the KAC) of the designs were really intended to succeed in the marketplace. They were designed for a very specific purpose of which the commercial market really has no use. There are much better designs out there for a quiet suppressed rifle (such as the aforementioned lever gun or bolt action suppressed rifles) but these had a very specific purpose and very specific design criteria. The most important criteria being a repeating design, and extremely quiet operation. Many commercial offerings didn't fit that, so the "wad of money" was necessary to meet the criteria.
Many are satisfied with a manual cycling semi-quiet operation, and for the cost you can't beat such a design, that is why those designs succeed in the marketplace.
But I do get what you're saying about the Nagant. Its cheap, reliable, and a great weapon to work with. Obviously somebody isn't going to go buy a Knights one (even if it could be purchased). Its just all about the "wow" factor, its a work of art.
notasccrmom
Sharpshooter
KAC played with a couple of different versions. One was based on a .44mag Ruger Super Redhawk, and the other was based on a .357mag GP100.
Just to clarify, the KAC revolver was never "available" at all. It was a special project for a specific purpose. My understanding is that not too many people knew about it at the time that it was being developed. It was the type of project that would have left the factory in a black helicopter in the middle of the night... now it's pretty public.
Exactly!
