St. Joseph County Prosecutor said WHAT?

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    Maybe someone in this group can help me understand this better.

    I posted about this shooting on Thursday in a Facebook group. It’s sad all the way around. Nobody that was involved walked away unscathed. It’ll be with victims on both sides for life.
    My problem with this WNDU story today though stems from another aspect following this event. It seems that the SJC Prosecutor needs a lesson in Indiana State Law. At the end of the written article from the WNDU website, the prosecutor said that there could be “civil action” against the one who was justified in the shooting.
    You can read the article here:

    Prosecutor explains decision to not press charges in shooting at South Bend gas station

    The only problem with what the prosecutor said is, state law strictly prohibits any penalty whatsoever, criminal or civil, if the shooting is justified. In fact, the “good guy with a gun”, as some have called them, is even protected from having to pay for his own legal defense fees in any matter related to this justified shooting.

    Why would the prosecutor say something so out of step with the laws of our state? Is it an intentional misrepresentation or an honest mistake?

    I’ll post the statute from our state code too. It just seems odd he would say such a thing…..

    Indiana Code Title 34. Civil Law and Procedure § 34-30-31-1

    Current as of June 08, 2021 | Updated by FindLaw Staff

    Sec. 1. (a) As used in this section, “forcible felony” means:

    (1) any offense described under IC 35-31.5-2-138;

    (2) residential entry (as defined under IC 35-43-2-1.5); or

    (3) burglary (as defined under IC 35-43-2-1).

    (b) The justified use of force described under IC 35-41-3-2 provides a complete immunity against any claim or action initiated by a person:

    (1) who alleges to have been injured or damaged by any such use of force; and

    (2) whose conduct justified the use of force.

    (c) In no case shall any use of force justified under IC 35-41-3-2 give rise to any claim or action for damages or compensation against a person, employer, or estate of a person using such force by or on behalf of any person who:

    (1) was attempting to commit or committing a forcible felony at the time such force was used; or

    (2) was attempting to cause or causing unlawful serious bodily injury to any other person at the time such force was used.

    This prohibition shall apply to any claim or action brought by the estate, personal representative, spouse, or family member of a person described in subdivision (1) or (2).

    (d) If a defendant files a motion under Trial Rule 56 of the Indiana Rules of Trial Procedure and supports that motion with admissible evidence that establishes a prima facie basis for the application of the immunity described in subsection (b) or (c), the burden shall shift to the plaintiff to oppose the motion with admissible evidence directly contradicting the application of the immunity in order to establish a genuine issue of material fact for trial.

    (e) In a civil case in which an immunity defense under subsection (b) or (c) is raised, the fact that a defendant was not prosecuted for a crime related to the defendant's use of force shall create a rebuttable presumption that the defendant's use of force was justified under IC 35-41-3-2 and the jury shall be instructed on this presumption if the case proceeds to trial. In a summary judgment proceeding described in subsection (d), the fact that a defendant was not prosecuted for a crime related to the defendant's use of force shall also create a prima facie basis for the application of the immunity described in subsection (b) or (c).

    (f) In any action commenced after June 30, 2019, in which the defense described in subsection (c) is raised by a defendant, at the conclusion of the action the court shall award to the defendant or defendants, as applicable, any reasonable attorney's fees and costs incurred in defending the action if a defendant successfully moves for summary judgment on the basis of the defense set forth in subsection (c) or the trier of fact determines that the action was prohibited by subsection (c).
     

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    How? I mean, the statute is pretty clear. I think it’s just intimidation.
    Prosecutor has no say in a civil case being that would be brought on by a family member of the thug. Very unlikely but it can happen no matter what the thug did.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    How? I mean, the statute is pretty clear. I think it’s just intimidation.
    You file a complaint, a summons all in accordance with TR5.

    To recover you must win the SJ first. This may discourage lawsuits but does not act like some sort of Star Trek force field (watching Enterprise as I clear the desk today).
     

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    Okay. Justified shooting and then civil action is the basis of my quandary.
    A judge would have to ignore this section of Indiana code to go ahead with a civil trial though, right?
    The civil “accuser" is then liable for the “defendants” legal fees.
    Am I reading that right or not?
     

    Gunuser17

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    Not entirely right. A "rebuttable presumption" is not immunity from a civil suit. Even if the DA decides not to prosecute, there can still be a civil suit but the plaintiff in that case will have to show that the shooter was negligent, or the plaintiff was not in the act of committing one of the enumerated crimes, or some other way to rebut the presumption granted by the statute. There is the risk to the plaintiff of paying the defendants attorney fees if the presumption is not rebutted during the civil case. The cited news article discusses "armed robber" - a civil suit might argue that such a description was not correct. Say, for instance, an open carrier comes up to a patron at a gas station and asks for money because he ran out of gas and forgot his wallet. The guy pumping gas misconstrues this as an armed robbery and shoots the open carrier. DA says not going to prosecute. The civil case would determine whether the shooter's understanding of the situation was reasonable or not. In such a scenario, the presumption in the statute may likely be rebutted. Far fetched perhaps but not outside the realm of possibility.
     
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