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    And now comes my review of the Famous S&W Model 29 Model 29 | Smith & Wesson (smith-wesson.com). More specifically, the Model 29-6. Many of you know that I grew up with revolvers. Back in the day, it is no secret that my friend, the late Denny Reichard and I wore many of these 29’s out shooting hard cast lead bullets on top of a case full of 2400. As a side note he would chastise me for liking the .41 Magnum as it was a wussy caliber. I can’t print what he really called it then. Look for a review on the Model 57 right here on these pages. So I continued to wear out some Model 29”s as we shot bowling pins and some action matches as well with the 44 Magnums.

    I carried the 4 inch Model 29 for close to 20 years in northern Indiana and never once did I whine about it being too heavy or lacking in street firepower. My thought has always been if you had to complain about how uncomfortable or heavy a gun is to carry all the time, then perhaps one should just as well stay home and watch Dancing with the Stars. When you shoot full house loads in these N Frame revolvers, you learn a few things about flinch, trigger control recovery and follow through. I remember staying right up with the semi auto extended magazine bowling pin shooters as I would often clear my table in 5 rounds. I only had to hit the 5 pins once so I usually had a round left over at the end of the heat. Back then, the time did not stop until the pin was on the ground and my 240 Grainers sent them to the earth with authority.

    Now this did not come without a price on the Model 29. Those of us taking shooting seriously soon found out that the Model 29 was a tiny bit under engineered in my opinion for a steady diet of thousands of 44 Magnums. Frames stretched, end shake happened, revolver became out of time, cylinder back up on recoil, and erosion took it’s toll. Keeping them running under this much stress required us to learn revolver smithing on the cuff. Trying some 8 and 10 inch versions of the Model 29, -1, -2, -3, -4, and -5’s for IHMSA IHMSA News - Welcome to IHMSA shooting did not help much. The factory stood behind the guns but you had to speak up to get them refurbished. It was not until the Model 29-6 that they engineered a trigger activated steel locking bolt and a few other enhancements to bring the 29 to a better performance. As a side note ironically, the Model 57 in .41 Magnum, never needed this enhancement as it was built with the same materials but with only .410 holes instead of .429 holes in the chambers and barrel providing more steel in the handgun. In my humble opinion, I feel, by accident, the Model 57 is the true Magnum in N Frames as I have yet to wear one out.

    I remember discussing this with an Editor of Popular gun magazine and because of advertising and such, he would never agree to this for his readers. Well, I don’t have bosses or advertisers and can say it like I see it. The Model 29 thru 29-5’s were the best 44 Specials ever built.

    This 29-6 is one of my favorites and I can reliably shoot magnums in it. Before I put on my signature package, I make sure that the production gun is in spec. I check the timing and forgings to make sure all is kosher. I shoot the gun for accuracy and look for any warranty issues. I measure the cylinder chambers by dropping bullets of a known size through the charge holes. When it passes my tests, I would then send it in to my personal friend at Smith and Wesson. Vito (retired now) would go though the gun and hand fit the action for me. With Vito knowing my attention to detail, he would then chamfer the front edges of the cylinder for a finished look that made the gun easier to reholster and reminiscent of pre war manufacturing. Also, the right side of the ejector housing needed beveled as well like they used to do pre 80’s before they started eliminating craftsmen work. The barrel was inspected again for the centerline and the sights were registered right down on the frame for a POI at 25 yards right on with standard factory ammo. You can tell a lot about the assembly of your revolver by referencing the junction of the barrel where it goes into the frame. I have seen many that were misfit. The gun was hand polished and finished in a separate blue operation from production.

    The grips on this are Kim Ahrends Ahrends Grips : Home (ahrendsgripsusa.com) Maple with a screw that is blued to match the frame of the gun. Just another attention to detail. I think Kim has retired now and hope the company is picked up by someone that cares as much as this family did about their product. Miss Judy was a true friend indeed.

    Mounting optics on the Smith and Wesson revolver could never be easier or as streamlined as they make it today. The top strap is drilled and tapped with 3 screw holes for mounting a scope or dot. One must remove the rear sight to do this but for balance and shootability, it is the way I prefer it. Mounting EER scopes out on the barrel on handguns or rifles destroys the balance in my opinion. Heavier Optics belong midship or behind the receiver at best but that is just me I guess.

    Recoil of the 44 Magnum is manageable with a trained shooter. Much like the noob needs an easy racking slide, or unexperienced Lever Loaders rip their fingers off, an untrained shooter can have a bad experience with a 44 Magnum. It is a learning curve that many just give up on. It does take a little more work to learn how to do these things correctly. I have and continue to smoke Alliant 2400 in my 44 magnums as case density is good and velocities are consistent. My favorite bullet is the Remington 240 Gr JSP. I am not sure what I will go to if they ae not manufactured by the new Remington Ammo Company when I run out. I have also shot lead wadcutters in the Model 29 for accuracy testing, revolver training and once in awhile bullseye. It seems I have always kept a box of Buffalo Bore on hand as well as sometimes I like a little more muscle.

    Speaking of more, one year while visiting some friends at the plant in Springfield, I was invited to shoot the new XFrame 500 S&W. The gun was just in it’s roll out and the factory was excited as they spent a lot of money on this this launch. I remember getting a few funny looks when I said I thought it was a little over the top for a handgun. There was even some chin music about this being developed for rifle calibers. I shot the massive gun with a small handle and citing diminished returns, it made me appreciate the finesse of the N Frame. For me, it made more sense to just carry a rifle if I needed that much power. After all, there is only one level of dead. The 44 Magnum in it’s standard load develops an average of 900FTLB of energy and is very flexible up or down from this scale.

    The Model 29-6 is a forged carbon steel frame and cylinder. Internals were steel as well however, the switch to first gen MIM had begun in some of these triggers and cylinder releases. First gen MIM did not meet my standards at that time and so I replaced them with a Color Casehardend Carbon Steel Trigger and an older cylinder release made of steel. It was interesting that the all steel cylinder release outweighed the MIM part by almost 50%. I have enjoyed the 629’s as well as the stainless properties make for less chance of rust, however stainless feels porous and spongy to me as carbon steel has the density that I like in looks and feel. There is less felt vibration when the hammer hits the frame of a carbon gun over stainless. I feel the same for knife blades Just me. In this world of shortcuts and variances I see Stainless and other man made elements resembling metal and state of the art polymers replacing the carbon blued gun altogether. After all, todays line up of paint/coating colors for guns is an easier/less costly way to finish a product and more resistant to the elements than bluing..

    One can tell some of the engineering changes Smith made through out the 29 run. Along about the -4 they started elongating the cylinder stop notch. It easy to tell the newer model by comparing the notch to an older one. Yoke retention screws and designs have been enhanced as well. This was good of S&W to address this product line improvement as the shooter became more aware. Cylinder back up, spitting lead and better end shake resistance have all been addressed in the newer models through engineering changes for the better. No more days of taking the chance that only a few would complain and sweep it under the rug. Sound familiar Colt’s Mfg?

    See Part 2

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    The 44 Magnum is a great round for heavy game, IHMSA, Bowling pins and vehicles that may need to be dispatched. Loading it down to 44 Special makes it a great Urban defense round as well. Hard like heck to beat the 44 Special for serious defense business county or city. I remember my friends around Richland Center and I would sit on a pasture hillside and shoot our magnums at an old junk car 200 yards away. That car got so light with riddled bullet holes that 4 of us were able to pick it up and load it on the wagon to haul away to the dump. Then there was the lumberjack matches. Two man teams would shoot at a 6x6 post. The first handgun team to chop wood in half won. Can’t tell you how many multiple 18 round magazine subcaliber guns lost that one.

    I spend a lot of time in my training on the presentation. Knowing how important the presentation is, I prefer leather for most of my applications. Quality leather lined leather. Stiff heavy leather that won’t flop around, wear out, or cave in. I had Bill King of the Galco Custom shop Exotic Gun Holsters | Galco Holsters (galcogunleather.com) build me a lot of my holsters. Bill knew I am not a fan of sweat guards, unlined holsters and anything less than a 1 ¾ inch thick Heavy belt. Yes, they cost more, but I never have wore one out. Many holster manufacturers have to sell stuff to stay alive, therefore the market is often not the best indicator for the best product available. Just sayin.

    Back in the day, I Took my first wlld boar ground hunting in SE Tennessee with a nickel Model 29 no dash 8 inch using 300 Grain Hornady FMJ bullets over a can of 2400. As the boar was looking straight at me from atop of a knoll ready to charge, I placed the 300 Grain pill right through his left eye passing lengthwise completely through his body and into a thin Walnut tree 8 yards behind him. It penetrated 3 inches through the bark and into the trunk. Sometimes we do not know what we do not know and I have used better 44 Magnum rounds since then to get the job done. On a sad side note, I left Hoppes #9 Buy No. 9 Gun Bore Cleaner and More | Hoppes on the Nickel finish too long and flaked off the finish. Again, I learned the hard way.

    The new 29 offered today is a good investment for a quality revolver. I am currently running new revolvers with the Hilary Hole and MIM parts and can attest to the latest manufacturing benefits. The new ones are easier to tune and tweak as there is less hand fitting needed because of quality tolerances being consistent. The 44 Magnum is a great cartridge and will always have a home in my battery. Having said that though, the red headed stepchild after thought of the Model 57 will be cuddled up right up aginnit.



    Good Shooting INGO and Happy New Year!
     

    Twangbanger

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    Finally, an internet poster who has fired enough rounds to realize new smiths are better than the old ones. I'd like to have $5 for every internet post made in the last 15 years, by know-nothings grousing about MIM parts, they don't make 'em like they used to, &c, &c. (Often posted by someone who had old guns they wanted to sell).

    The fact is, the older smiths were weaker, wouldn't take as many rounds before overhaul, and got sent back for warranty issues just as often as the new ones (the current owners were just unaware of what the original owner had to go through, to get the gun to shoot right). The older guns are great for setting in your safe, but for high-volume shooting, give me the newer gun any day.

    Denny was a big proponent of the -6 design and the improvements it brought over the old ones. When he did my action job, I remember him saying he wouldn't use any other design for serious shooting. It has readily-available spare parts which are manufactured close to net shape, and can be fitted with minimal blacksmithing.

    Good review. (How about a 586 edition?)
     

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    I have to agree with Twangbanger...my gunsmith has stated numerous times that modern revolvers (and firearms in general) are built to tighter tolerances, are more robust where they need to be, and are more reliable due to innovations such as computer modeling and cnc machining.
     

    drillsgt

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    I have to agree with Twangbanger...my gunsmith has stated numerous times that modern revolvers (and firearms in general) are built to tighter tolerances, are more robust where they need to be, and are more reliable due to innovations such as computer modeling and cnc machining.
    I don't have an issue with the current guns but I would never buy a lock gun just because of aesthetics. Anything under N frame with the lock just doesn't have the same S&W profile anymore, especially the K frames, they look horrible.
     

    climber1218

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    I don't have an issue with the current guns but I would never buy a lock gun just because of aesthetics. Anything under N frame with the lock just doesn't have the same S&W profile anymore, especially the K frames, they look horrible.
    I understand what you are saying, however, I like to think of myself as someone who treats guns as tools and buys a gun because it serves a purpose well (and not because of aesthetics)...then I see something new at the gun store: "that looks so cool...I must have one!":)
     

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    And now comes my review of the Famous S&W Model 29 Model 29 | Smith & Wesson (smith-wesson.com). More specifically, the Model 29-6. Many of you know that I grew up with revolvers. Back in the day, it is no secret that my friend, the late Denny Reichard and I wore many of these 29’s out shooting hard cast lead bullets on top of a case full of 2400. As a side note he would chastise me for liking the .41 Magnum as it was a wussy caliber. I can’t print what he really called it then. Look for a review on the Model 57 right here on these pages. So I continued to wear out some Model 29”s as we shot bowling pins and some action matches as well with the 44 Magnums.

    I carried the 4 inch Model 29 for close to 20 years in northern Indiana and never once did I whine about it being too heavy or lacking in street firepower. My thought has always been if you had to complain about how uncomfortable or heavy a gun is to carry all the time, then perhaps one should just as well stay home and watch Dancing with the Stars. When you shoot full house loads in these N Frame revolvers, you learn a few things about flinch, trigger control recovery and follow through. I remember staying right up with the semi auto extended magazine bowling pin shooters as I would often clear my table in 5 rounds. I only had to hit the 5 pins once so I usually had a round left over at the end of the heat. Back then, the time did not stop until the pin was on the ground and my 240 Grainers sent them to the earth with authority.

    Now this did not come without a price on the Model 29. Those of us taking shooting seriously soon found out that the Model 29 was a tiny bit under engineered in my opinion for a steady diet of thousands of 44 Magnums. Frames stretched, end shake happened, revolver became out of time, cylinder back up on recoil, and erosion took it’s toll. Keeping them running under this much stress required us to learn revolver smithing on the cuff. Trying some 8 and 10 inch versions of the Model 29, -1, -2, -3, -4, and -5’s for IHMSA IHMSA News - Welcome to IHMSA shooting did not help much. The factory stood behind the guns but you had to speak up to get them refurbished. It was not until the Model 29-6 that they engineered a trigger activated steel locking bolt and a few other enhancements to bring the 29 to a better performance. As a side note ironically, the Model 57 in .41 Magnum, never needed this enhancement as it was built with the same materials but with only .410 holes instead of .429 holes in the chambers and barrel providing more steel in the handgun. In my humble opinion, I feel, by accident, the Model 57 is the true Magnum in N Frames as I have yet to wear one out.

    I remember discussing this with an Editor of Popular gun magazine and because of advertising and such, he would never agree to this for his readers. Well, I don’t have bosses or advertisers and can say it like I see it. The Model 29 thru 29-5’s were the best 44 Specials ever built.

    This 29-6 is one of my favorites and I can reliably shoot magnums in it. Before I put on my signature package, I make sure that the production gun is in spec. I check the timing and forgings to make sure all is kosher. I shoot the gun for accuracy and look for any warranty issues. I measure the cylinder chambers by dropping bullets of a known size through the charge holes. When it passes my tests, I would then send it in to my personal friend at Smith and Wesson. Vito (retired now) would go though the gun and hand fit the action for me. With Vito knowing my attention to detail, he would then chamfer the front edges of the cylinder for a finished look that made the gun easier to reholster and reminiscent of pre war manufacturing. Also, the right side of the ejector housing needed beveled as well like they used to do pre 80’s before they started eliminating craftsmen work. The barrel was inspected again for the centerline and the sights were registered right down on the frame for a POI at 25 yards right on with standard factory ammo. You can tell a lot about the assembly of your revolver by referencing the junction of the barrel where it goes into the frame. I have seen many that were misfit. The gun was hand polished and finished in a separate blue operation from production.

    The grips on this are Kim Ahrends Ahrends Grips : Home (ahrendsgripsusa.com) Maple with a screw that is blued to match the frame of the gun. Just another attention to detail. I think Kim has retired now and hope the company is picked up by someone that cares as much as this family did about their product. Miss Judy was a true friend indeed.

    Mounting optics on the Smith and Wesson revolver could never be easier or as streamlined as they make it today. The top strap is drilled and tapped with 3 screw holes for mounting a scope or dot. One must remove the rear sight to do this but for balance and shootability, it is the way I prefer it. Mounting EER scopes out on the barrel on handguns or rifles destroys the balance in my opinion. Heavier Optics belong midship or behind the receiver at best but that is just me I guess.

    Recoil of the 44 Magnum is manageable with a trained shooter. Much like the noob needs an easy racking slide, or unexperienced Lever Loaders rip their fingers off, an untrained shooter can have a bad experience with a 44 Magnum. It is a learning curve that many just give up on. It does take a little more work to learn how to do these things correctly. I have and continue to smoke Alliant 2400 in my 44 magnums as case density is good and velocities are consistent. My favorite bullet is the Remington 240 Gr JSP. I am not sure what I will go to if they ae not manufactured by the new Remington Ammo Company when I run out. I have also shot lead wadcutters in the Model 29 for accuracy testing, revolver training and once in awhile bullseye. It seems I have always kept a box of Buffalo Bore on hand as well as sometimes I like a little more muscle.

    Speaking of more, one year while visiting some friends at the plant in Springfield, I was invited to shoot the new XFrame 500 S&W. The gun was just in it’s roll out and the factory was excited as they spent a lot of money on this this launch. I remember getting a few funny looks when I said I thought it was a little over the top for a handgun. There was even some chin music about this being developed for rifle calibers. I shot the massive gun with a small handle and citing diminished returns, it made me appreciate the finesse of the N Frame. For me, it made more sense to just carry a rifle if I needed that much power. After all, there is only one level of dead. The 44 Magnum in it’s standard load develops an average of 900FTLB of energy and is very flexible up or down from this scale.

    The Model 29-6 is a forged carbon steel frame and cylinder. Internals were steel as well however, the switch to first gen MIM had begun in some of these triggers and cylinder releases. First gen MIM did not meet my standards at that time and so I replaced them with a Color Casehardend Carbon Steel Trigger and an older cylinder release made of steel. It was interesting that the all steel cylinder release outweighed the MIM part by almost 50%. I have enjoyed the 629’s as well as the stainless properties make for less chance of rust, however stainless feels porous and spongy to me as carbon steel has the density that I like in looks and feel. There is less felt vibration when the hammer hits the frame of a carbon gun over stainless. I feel the same for knife blades Just me. In this world of shortcuts and variances I see Stainless and other man made elements resembling metal and state of the art polymers replacing the carbon blued gun altogether. After all, todays line up of paint/coating colors for guns is an easier/less costly way to finish a product and more resistant to the elements than bluing..

    One can tell some of the engineering changes Smith made through out the 29 run. Along about the -4 they started elongating the cylinder stop notch. It easy to tell the newer model by comparing the notch to an older one. Yoke retention screws and designs have been enhanced as well. This was good of S&W to address this product line improvement as the shooter became more aware. Cylinder back up, spitting lead and better end shake resistance have all been addressed in the newer models through engineering changes for the better. No more days of taking the chance that only a few would complain and sweep it under the rug. Sound familiar Colt’s Mfg?

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    Denny Reichard knew Model 29s! Thank God I had him work on all my S&W revolvers and my 29. I love that Revolver.
    RIP Denny.
     

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    Came across this thread and decided it should be bounced back up…. Splendidly written!! While I love the old Smiths I must agree that metallurgy and precision is much better than it was then. While I despise the lock hole on the 29-10 I have an amazing trigger and fit and finish are superb. Accuracy fantastic when I do my part. Have to be honest and say I’ve been tossing around finding an early 29 with a 6.5” barrel. I’m actually leaning towards a new one as I intend to shoot it etc….
     
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    Finally, an internet poster who has fired enough rounds to realize new smiths are better than the old ones. I'd like to have $5 for every internet post made in the last 15 years, by know-nothings grousing about MIM parts, they don't make 'em like they used to, &c, &c. (Often posted by someone who had old guns they wanted to sell).

    The fact is, the older smiths were weaker, wouldn't take as many rounds before overhaul, and got sent back for warranty issues just as often as the new ones (the current owners were just unaware of what the original owner had to go through, to get the gun to shoot right). The older guns are great for setting in your safe, but for high-volume shooting, give me the newer gun any day.
    First of all , very well written review! That 29-6 is a beauty! Actually shooting 44 magnum ammo in Smith revolvers I would definitely want a version made after the endurance upgrades.

    Have 3 Smiths with MIM (66-5 , 629-5 and 617-5) The 617-5 even has the lock. One feature all three share is exceptional accuracy. Have older versions of two of the guns (66-1 and 617-1) and they do not shoot as well for me. The 617-5 is easily the most accurate Smith revolver I have ever owned so it having MIM and the lock is zero concern to me.

    The older 66-1 and 617-1 have better trigger pulls but the newer guns still very good. In the case of the 66-1 the previous owner has put in lighter springs. My bought new in 2000 629-5 had a perfect trigger pull right out of the box.

    The only newer Smith I did not not care for over the older version was my 586-8. The rear sight had to be cranked well to the left to hit center. The SA pull had some creep. And testing even with an optic did not shoot as well as any of the 357 Smiths I had previously accuracy tested. I later found a used 586-4 , this is a real gem and fantastic shooter! The 586-8 was consigned on gunbroker and sold for far more than I expected!
     
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