Slaughter all of them

[ruger1800]

Would you be for or against killing dealers or addicts here in Indiana.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...s-philippines-duterte-drug-killings.html?_r=0

 

[Kutnupe14]

Against, were not fascists here

 

[churchmouse]

This is not an acceptable topic. Be civil in your response.
If it goes south there will be those that go south with it.

 

[Leadeye]

This is still America, you can't just slaughter people. That said, I don't see things changing here much, sadly I expect Drugs Inc. to become a larger part of the economy every year.

 

[ruger1800]

Does the death penalty apply to dealers who sell drugs to addicts that ultimately die, heroine users are dying daily.

 

[chezuki]

heroine users

I do not agree with using women, especially those who have behaved admirably in times of crisis.

 

[Bigtanker]

 

[TB1999]

against

 

[ruger1800]

against

Even if your child dies from od.

 

[david890]

Would you be for or against killing dealers or addicts here in Indiana.

There's no question I was addicted to opioids. However, those were legally prescribed.

Would "addict" also include tobacco and alcohol? They kill far more than the Sched. 1 drugs combined. Note that death from smoking is not broken out in the data below, but we can assume a reasonable fraction of deaths due to heart and respiratory disease.

Cause of death (Data from 2013 unless otherwise noted)	Number
All Causes	2,596,993
Major Cardiovascular Diseases [MCD]	796,494
Cerebrovascular Diseases [subset of MCD]	128,978
Essential Hypertension and Hypertensive Renal Disease [subset of MCD]	30,770
Malignant Neoplasms [Cancer]	584,881
Chronic Lower Respiratory Diseases	149,205
Accidents (Unintentional Injuries) [Total]	130,557
Motor Vehicle Accidents [subset of Total Accidents]	35,369
Alzheimer's Disease	84,767
Diabetes Mellitus	75,578
Influenza and Pneumonia	56,979
Nephritis, Nephrotic Syndrome and Nephrosis	47,112
Drug-Induced Deaths[SUP]1[/SUP]	46,471
Intentional Self-Harm (Suicide)	41,149
Septicemia	38,156
Chronic Liver Disease and Cirrhosis	36,427
Alcoholic Liver Disease [subset of Chronic Liver Disease]	18,146
Injury by Firearms	33,636
Alcohol-Induced Deaths	29,001
Parkinson's Disease	25,196
Pneumonitis Due to Solids and Liquids	18,579
Homicide	16,121
Viral Hepatitis	8,157
Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) Disease	6,955
All Illicit Drugs Combined (2000)[SUP]2[/SUP]	17,000[SUP]2[/SUP]
Cannabis (Marijuana)[SUP]3[/SUP]	0
2014 Data Detailing Drug-Induced Deaths, Breaking Out Specific Data for Prescription Analgesics and Heroin, as Reported by the CDC[SUP]4[/SUP]
Drug Overdose Total	47,055
Pharmaceutical Opioid Analgesics	18,893
Heroin Overdose	10,574
2010 Drug Overdose Mortality Data In Detail, Reported By Paulozzi et al.[SUP]5[/SUP]
Drug Overdose Total	38,329
Pharmaceutical Drugs	22,134
Pharmaceutical Opioid Analgesics	16,651

[SUP]1 "Drug" includes both legal and illegal drugs.[/SUP]
[SUP]2 Mokdad, Ali H., PhD, James S. Marks, MD, MPH, Donna F. Stroup, PhD, MSc, Julie L. Gerberding, MD, MPH, "Actual Causes of Death in the United States, 2000," Journal of the American Medical Association, (March 10, 2004), G225 Vol. 291, No. 10, 1242.[/SUP]
[SUP]3 No recorded cases of overdose deaths from cannabis have been found in extensive literature reviews, see for example Gable, Robert S., "The Toxicity of Recreational Drugs," American Scientist (Research Triangle Park, NC: Sigma Xi, The Scientific Research Society, May-June 2006) Vol. 94, No. 3, p. 207.[/SUP]
[SUP]4 CDC/NCHS, National Vital Statistics System, Mortality File, 2015, last accessed Dec. 11, 2015.[/SUP]
[SUP]5 Paulozzi et al analyzed mortality figures and found that of 38,329 drug overdose deaths then reported in 2010, pharmaceutical drugs accounted for 22,134 deaths, of which 16,651 were opiod analgesic overdoses. The data were apparently revised slightly between the time the research letter was published in JAMA (February 2013) and release of the CDC's Deaths: Final Data for 2010 publication report, officially dated May 8, 2013.[/SUP]
- See more at: Annual Causes of Death in the United States | Drug War Facts

 

[IndyDave1776]

Stop the 'war on drugs' and prohibitions. Let the self-destructive self-liquidate. No more drug culture, no more of our rights sacrificed in the name of fighting the drug culture.

 

[KellyinAvon]

This Duterte guy makes Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos look like George and Martha Washington. We are a nation of laws. Government hit squads killing drug criminals puts us on a path to a place we don't want to be.

 

[ruger1800]

Stop the 'war on drugs' and prohibitions. Let the self-destructive self-liquidate. No more drug culture, no more of our rights sacrificed in the name of fighting the drug culture.

Would quickly turn the United States into a third world country.

 

[Arm America]

While I do support a death penalty for certain crimes against humanity, a drug conviction for use or dealing in my opinion does not warrant death.

 

[ruger1800]

This Duterte guy makes Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos look like George and Martha Washington. We are a nation of laws. Government hit squads killing drug criminals puts us on a path to a place we don't want to be.

Are you saying the U.S. Government has never used hit squads?

 

[churchmouse]

Even if your child dies from od.

These young people are making decisions we can not change.
Have you had to attempt to put an addict back on track. They will deceive/divert/steal/find alternative ways to get high regardless of the law, an available dealer, what ever.
We have been through this and it gets ugly.
Eliminating the dealers only opens up the search for alternative avenues such as poisons of all nature that are readily available.
The answer is in the culture. The drug culture. It is embedded in the users and those who would use. The dealers are merely opportunists.

This is more than just an opinion.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Are you saying the U.S. Government has never used hit squads?

Are you saying that makes it ok?

 

[chezuki]

 

[KellyinAvon]

That dude is getting ready to grab a big bag and run off with it.

 

[TB1999]

If my child died of od, would i support the killing of all drug users and dealers?

no, no i would not. thats a pretty severe punishment for someone, especially when you consider how many people probably not a user, but was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and were "guilty by association".