Ron Paul: Words Mean Things

[Lex Concord]

I think Ron must've read some of 88GTs posts...he wants to take back the language...or at least certain words.

Meaningless Words in Politics by Ron Paul

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Even if I don't agree with some of his proposed policies, I can certainly agree with this article! It's long past time to take back the English Language - or at least the American version of it.

 

[Lex Concord]

Even if I don't agree with some of his proposed policies, I can certainly agree with this article! It's long past time to take back the English Language - or at least the American version of it.

Based on that, I think you might truly enjoy "Liberty Defined"...

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Based on that, I think you might truly enjoy "Liberty Defined"...

I very well might. But RPs abortion stand and his foreign policy made him a non-starter for me during the last Presidential Election cycle - or maybe the one before that.

 

[Lex Concord]

I very well might. But RPs abortion stand and his foreign policy made him a non-starter for me during the last Presidential Election cycle - or maybe the one before that.

I understand completely...I still think you'd enjoy it overall, even though it includes his detailed definitions of both.

Out of curiosity, what is it about his abortion stand that you don't like?

 

[rambone]

I very well might. But RPs abortion stand and his foreign policy made him a non-starter for me during the last Presidential Election cycle - or maybe the one before that.

Which of Romney's abortion stances suit you better than Ron Paul's "get the Feds out of it" stance?

 

[Lex Concord]

Which of Romney's abortion stances suit you better than Ron Paul's "get the Feds out of it" stance?

Can we leave Romney out of this for a minute? I think he gets enough attention already.

 

[level.eleven]

Do you think that names like Rockwell and Rothbard are...sort of albatrosses around the neck of the liberty movement? Just a general question. I don't want to rehash history or play link-fu. I have simply lost a little respect for LRC as I acquire more knowledge.

 

[downzero]

I wasn't aware that abortion was an issue in this or any other election.

 

[Lex Concord]

Do you think that names like Rockwell and Rothbard are...sort of albatrosses around the neck of the liberty movement? Just a general question. I don't want to rehash history or play link-fu. I have simply lost a little respect for LRC as I acquire more knowledge.

Why not...Jefferson having owned slaves is still trotted out as some kind of argument against liberty.

If so, it would be a shame, especially in the case of Rothbard as he usually has a certain genius for effectively explaining the principles of liberty and Austrian economics.

Just to be clear, are you referring to their alleged involvement in the infamous newsletters, or something else?

 

[poptab]

Do you think that names like Rockwell and Rothbard are...sort of albatrosses around the neck of the liberty movement? Just a general question. I don't want to rehash history or play link-fu. I have simply lost a little respect for LRC as I acquire more knowledge.

I assume you are referring to Lew Rockwell and Murray Rothbard. How are Rockwell and Rothbard albatrosses?

What 'knowledge' caused you to lose respect for LRC?

Please explain.

 

[Classic Liberal]

I very well might. But RPs abortion stand and his foreign policy made him a non-starter for me during the last Presidential Election cycle - or maybe the one before that.

His stance on foreign policy is constitutional based. What part of that do you disagree with?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I wasn't aware that abortion was an issue in this or any other election.

I thought a candidate's philosophy on civil rights were always a key consideration whether to support them or not

 

[Blackhawk2001]

I understand completely...I still think you'd enjoy it overall, even though it includes his detailed definitions of both.

Out of curiosity, what is it about his abortion stand that you don't like?

While it may misstate his position, back in 2004, the "position paper" that his followers were handing out at the Irish Fest in Dublin Ohio, said he thought abortion "should be the mother's choice," which is a position I can't agree with. Not that I think the federal government should approve or disapprove of abortion, but that abortion is - by definition - the deliberate killing of a life separate from the mother; a life which hasn't had the opportunity to do anything worthy of a death sentence.

Anyone with any commitment to "truth" will concede that the vast majority of abortions are done for the convenience of the mother, not for her "health."

 

[VN Vet]

Ron Paul is today's Barry Goldwater. Can you imagine a Paul & Goldwater ticket? Greatness reigns!

 

[Blackhawk2001]

His stance on foreign policy is constitutional based. What part of that do you disagree with?

As far as I can remember, the Constitution doesn't say a word about foreign policy. Enlighten me, please.

 

[Classic Liberal]

As far as I can remember, the Constitution doesn't say a word about foreign policy. Enlighten me, please.

Actions from our government requires approval of Congress. That has been ignored for decades.

 

[MTC]

Thanks for posting, Lex.

The link, within the link, to Orwell's essay is interesting and helpful.

 

[downzero]

I thought a candidate's philosophy on civil rights were always a key consideration whether to support them or not

I'm still wondering how an issue that the Supreme Court elevated to constitutional politics 40 years ago has any bearing on who you elect for President.

No matter what you or anyone thinks about abortion, the President does not have the power or the clout to amend the constitution.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Actions from our government requires approval of Congress. That has been ignored for decades.

Trot out the reference, please. The Commander In Chief has wide latitude (perhaps too wide at times) to use the military outside of a Congressional Declaration of War (which declaration has been in force since 2001 BTW). So trot out that reference so we can see what it actually says.