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  • Gordy

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    The problem with trapping comes into play when you have dogs and cats and they find them. Closing your coop at night and then going out to set traps becomes a pain. Most chicken herders only let them range during daylight hours. Getting an electronic caller also helps draw them in when you have time to hunt. Predators are smart and learn when the meals are being served. Most people don't have time to sit around all day and wait. I feel your pain. Predators are a huge problem so hunt them and always have a program to propagate your flock. At any given time we have about 120-150 chickens in various growth cycles. It has become a necessity. With thousands of acres of farm land around and state game preserves, there are plenty of coyotes.
     

    DanVoils

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    50 BMG ??? Really? I've got to see pics of that....
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    Valvestate

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    MikeDVB

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    I can hear them at night, but haven't seen one in years [on the south-side of Indy].

    That said, fairly certain that even if I was dispatching a Coyote I'd be in trouble for discharging a firearm within the city limits.
     

    horsehaulin

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    When I called the DNR they advised on private land no license or other requirements as they are nuisance and causing damage to my livestock. Long story short he said not an issue if you dispatch them.

    I dispatched three deer for stomping my chickens several years ago. Anything that is a nuisance, be it deer, fox, or any other animal.

    If help is needed, I will bring a few rifles and we can dial them in while hitting moving targets.
     

    PapaScout

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    We kept goats for several years and hog fence staked to the ground halfway between posts as the first layer of protection. Electric wire run a foot apart on the outside as the second layer worked great to keep the coyotes away.

    It watched the goats 24/7 where I couldn't.
     

    Hookeye

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    I'd go with #4 buck minimum on shotgun. Yotes can take a pounding.
    Having said that, .223 seems to slam 'em into the dirt pretty hard, dare I say it............maybe too much power for Wile E inside 150 yards.

    Cuz hit onside shoulder, not broadside, so exit was a little ways behind off side. Yote went down with quite a bit of stuff hanging out the exit.

    D was 75 yards on the move. Load was V max 55 gr Hornady.
     

    ru44mag

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    I skimmed quickly, but .223 is an excellent choice, if you use hollow points. I would use .223 over shotgun, unless you know you will be shooting under 30 yards.
     

    throttletony

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    Is there open season on Yotes?

    On public land, NO. (follows furbearer hunting/trapping season, mid Oct. - end of Feb or mid Mar. I guess you could argue self-defense vs a nuisance animal... not sure about that though)
    However, on PRIVATE land you are good to go year round IF they are nuisance animal. Legally you should be land owner or have his/her written permisison. I don't think the DNR is extremely worried about yotes getting shot, but they do have to put in their due diligence and you might be the guy that gets in trouble for not following regulations if someone calls it in.

    Also, no caliber/weapon restrictions for nuisance animals.

    To original question -- shotgun is great IF you are close enough, but I agree with most others that responded, the 223 is a more versatile choice. I prefer 243, but that's really more than what is needed.

    Also, I agree with others that a trap can be very effective, although you may catch some non-target species.

    I'd be glad to help out and come blast some yotes, where are you at? PM me if you want some back-up sometime
     

    Brown86

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    I've been looking into a .17 hmr and was wondering if you guys think that has what it takes for coyotes. i'm just looking for a small game rifle but i've seen a lot of pics of ppl using them coyote hunting. i have a 223 so its not a question of which cal. to get just wondering about the .17 hmr for coyotes.
     

    jwh20

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    I've been looking into a .17 hmr and was wondering if you guys think that has what it takes for coyotes. i'm just looking for a small game rifle but i've seen a lot of pics of ppl using them coyote hunting. i have a 223 so its not a question of which cal. to get just wondering about the .17 hmr for coyotes.

    Here are the ballistics for .17 HMR:

    17 HMR Ballistics Chart & Drop Table GunData.org

    At 100 yds you have 1700+ fps and 140 ft-lbs of energy. Compare that to .223:

    .223 Ballistics Chart & Coefficient GunData.org

    Where at 100 yds you have 929 ft-lbs. of energy.

    Is 140 ft-lbs enough to drop a coyote? I'd say yes, with a reasonably good shot at least. Hit him in the hind-quarters and he'll probably limp off and die later.

    But that's more energy than a .22 LR has at the muzzle.
     
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