Point me in the right direction for a new AR

[dhayse32]

In the market for a new AR, mainly as a coyote gun. I have had a chance to look at a few models, but honestly, I don't need a $1000+ gun for this. I have looked at the CORE models as well as the Bushmasters, which I thought look very cheaply made. Any ideas? I don't mind buying used but looking for the right direction to go. Appreciate the help.

 

[slowG]

Can't go wrong with an off the shelf stag

 

[ChristianPatriot]

I've had great luck with my M&P 15 Sport. Great gun for the price. Mine's been very accurate too. The very first time I ever shot out to 100yds with any gun I was able to get a 3/4" group out of that rifle. Not a single failure of any kind with a couple hundred rounds American Eagle 55gr and a dozen 69gr Hornaday match.

 

[NyleRN]

If you want to shoot yote then get something with a 1:7 twist so you can stabilize those heavier bullets at longer ranges. Lots of good black rifles can be bought used for $750 or less

 

[Jeremy1066]

Far from necessary, but you would better served with a 20" barrel IMO. (And agree on 1:7 twist)

 

[dhayse32]

Thanks for the help. I haven't been on here in a long time and glad to be back! Lots of great information.

I put a WTB add out there and been checking out the classifieds. Bound to find something to fit my needs.

 

[Jeremy1066]

Thanks for the help. I haven't been on here in a long time and glad to be back! Lots of great information.

I put a WTB add out there and been checking out the classifieds. Bound to find something to fit my needs.

Good luck and let us know what you find

 

[Jeremy1066]

While I'm thinking about it, check out Palmetto State. They always have great deals and good reviews from users on INGO. Disclaimer: I've never owned or used a PSA rifle, but they are mentioned ALOT.

 

[slowG]

Wouldn't the type of ammo he is going to use decide the twist? Certain ammo works best with a certain twist. There is a wealth of information about this out there.

 

[Jeremy1066]

Wouldn't the type of ammo he is going to use decide the twist? Certain ammo works best with a certain twist. There is a wealth of information about this out there.

Indeed it does. If he was only going to use 55gr loads or lighter, a 1:9 twist would be great. However, anything heavier will be better suited to a 1:7 twist (which will also shoot 55gr just fine)

 

[bwframe]

This is where I go. Great folks to deal with, better pricing and selection than new:

INGO Classifieds - Long Guns - Rifles & Shotguns

 

[NyleRN]

Wouldn't the type of ammo he is going to use decide the twist? Certain ammo works best with a certain twist. There is a wealth of information about this out there.

Most of the common 5.56/223 is 55gr up to 75gr. The 1:7 twist along with the 1:8 will shoot these loads best. The 1:9 will shoot 40gr on up but I wouldn't try to be accurate with a 75gr bullet out a 1:9 barrel at 200-300yds as it probably won't be. But yes, there's lot of info on bullet weight in relation to twist rate

ETA: Jeremy1066 beat me to the punch by mere seconds

 

[cwillour]

What type of ranges do you expect to be shooting?

 

[dhayse32]

What type of ranges do you expect to be shooting?

No real set distance. 200 and in I'd say with most shots around 100?

 

[NyleRN]

No real set distance. 200 and in I'd say with most shots around 100?

You're doing pretty good if you can get a yote to commit inside or around 100yds. Most guys I talk to that yote hunt here in the southern part usually shoot in the 200yd range. Regardless, I'd go for a 1:7 barrel and load up with 69gr or 75gr match. That way you have the ability to take 'em out at 250yds if need be.

 

[BigMoose]

There are some 204 ruger ARs out there made for yotes.

 

[weedsnager]

I've had great luck with my M&P 15 Sport. Great gun for the price. Mine's been very accurate too. The very first time I ever shot out to 100yds with any gun I was able to get a 3/4" group out of that rifle. Not a single failure of any kind with a couple hundred rounds American Eagle 55gr and a dozen 69gr Hornaday match.

Blythes in griifth has them for $599

 

[slowG]

So rifles with 1:9 twist barrels with proper ammo would not fair as well from 250 yards? I'm kind of new to rifles as well and want to be clear.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

So rifles with 1:9 twist barrels with proper ammo would not fair as well from 250 yards? I'm kind of new to rifles as well and want to be clear.

@250 yds you probably wouldn't notice the difference between 50gr varmint specific ammo out of a 1:12 twist compared to 75gr match stuff out of an 1:8 or higher. The heavier (longer) bullets have a higher b.c. and retain their energy longer and don't drop as much. But only out to 250 they'd both have plenty of gas to do the job.

 

[M67]

I'd look into one of the Mossberg ARs if you were just looking for a not super expensive coyote gun. Flat top, knurled free float forearm. Should do just fine