Permit-less carry & US permanent residents.

[Tomahawkman]

Does anyone know or has it been discussed elsewhere, US permanent residents/green card holder, residing in Indiana and what this new constitutional carry bill means for them?

It was my understanding that IN would issue a 4 year LTCH.

Thank you for any input.

 

[Mgderf]

Great question.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Uncertain if I fully grok your inquiry, but let's start here:

May aliens legally in the United States purchase firearms? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

An alien legally in the U.S. is not prohibited from purchasing firearms unless the alien is admitted into the U.S. under a nonimmigrant visa and does not meet one of the exceptions as provided in 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2), such as possession of a valid hunting license or permit. [18 U.S.C. 922 (d)(5)...

www.atf.gov

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Indiana has no statute on your citizenship, in fact we do not care EVEN IF YOU COME FROM KENTUCKY. Shocking I know, I, for one, demand that we close the Kentucky loophole.

 

[eldirector]

http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2022/bills/house/1296#document-21f4b4d7

Looks like page 19 has the list of people who CANNOT legally carry.

Pretty long list, but I do not see "US perm Residents / Green card". The only reference to "alien" is for those here illegally.

 

[xwing]

Reading the bill, a lawful permanent resident should be good to go. A few of the states do specify "citizen" for Constitutional Carry, but most (inc. Indiana) do not.

 

[MrSmitty]

Indiana has no statute on your citizenship, in fact we do not care EVEN IF YOU COME FROM KENTUCKY. Shocking I know, I, for one, demand that we close the Kentucky loophole.

As a reformed Kentuckian, I take offense at that.....or is that defense......I am FROM Kentucky...... But I saw the light and moved to the great state of Indiana, I'll never live there again! Does it help that I've always liked Bobby Knight, AND always hated UK?

 

[ditcherman]

Indiana has no statute on your citizenship, in fact we do not care EVEN IF YOU COME FROM KENTUCKY. Shocking I know, I, for one, demand that we close the Kentucky loophole.

Oh so that’s why you always spell “my rights” the way you do…

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Oh so that’s why you always spell “my rights” the way you do…

Yes, to communicate with Kentuckians. It is vital to know The Enemy's language.

We on INGO may disagree over 9mm vs. .45acp but we can all agree, 1) anyone in the country legally may carry in Indiana without a license effective July 1st, 2) AND the Kentucky loophole must be closed.

 

[cosermann]

Reading the bill, a lawful permanent resident should be good to go. …

So, do friends/family visiting/vacationing from other states need a license from their own state then I wonder?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So, do friends/family visiting/vacationing from other states need a license from their own state then I wonder?

No. The only exception is Kentuckians. They must stay out.

 

[tsm]

No. The only exception is Kentuckians. They must stay out.

So other than North Dakota, is that the rule in all other permitless states - that proper citizens from any other state can carry in any permitless state? Or is it more nuanced than that? (Not going to get into the Kentucky issue).

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So other than North Dakota, is that the rule in all other permitless states - that proper citizens from any other state can carry in any permitless state? Or is it more nuanced than that? (Not going to get into the Kentucky issue).

Sorry, do not know the law (or, soon-to-be law, lol) of other states.

All right thinking Hoosiers get into the Kentucky issue. We owe it to our children.

 

[xwing]

So other than North Dakota, is that the rule in all other permitless states - that proper citizens from any other state can carry in any permitless state? Or is it more nuanced than that? (Not going to get into the Kentucky issue).

It's a little more nuanced, but not much. In all other permitless carry states besides ND (including in the near future IN, OH & AL), all US citizens (other than prohibited persons) from any state can carry without a license in that state. In most of them, it also includes anyone legally in the U.S. (ID & WV require U.S. citizen)


And regarding Kentucky: The best car in the world (in my extremely biased opinion) is built in Kentucky, so cut them some slack. Also, they have one of the best Senators...

 

[fzd]

As far as I know Indiana does not have additional restriction regarding non citizens carrying and possessing firearms. Although in practice only citizens can apply for lifetime carry permit.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

As far as I know Indiana does not have additional restriction regarding non citizens carrying and possessing firearms. Although in practice only citizens can apply for lifetime carry permit.

Non-citizens may apply for a five year license.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Yes, to communicate with Kentuckians. It is vital to know The Enemy's language.

We on INGO may disagree over 9mm vs. .45acp but we can all agree, 1) anyone in the country legally may carry in Indiana without a license effective July 1st, 2) AND the Kentucky loophole must be closed.

Does this Kentucky loophole closing also include honorary Kentuckians? Such as let's say Kentucky Colonels?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Does this Kentucky loophole closing also include honorary Kentuckians? Such as let's say Kentucky Colonels?

Kentucky Colonels are the coolest people on Earth.

They are exempt from ALL LAWS.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Kentucky Colonels are the coolest people on Earth.

They are exempt from ALL LAWS.

How does that arguement work in court?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

How does that arguement work in court?

Motion to Dismiss.