permit copies

[jerbur6]

is it legal to make copies of your permit and if you lose original to carry a copy?

 

[Barry in IN]

I don't know about that, but they will send you a replacement. Or, at least they did.
I got one once, and they were pretty quick getting it to me. I don't recall the cost, if any, but it's probably changed by now anyway.

 

[Fenway]

I seem to remember a member here making copies on pink paper.

 

[kludge]

RE: Gun permit‏
From:Stark, Sandra
Sent:Fri 3/28/08 1:17 PM
To: kludge

Sir, if you need more clarification on this matter, please contact Major Jerome Ezell at 1-800-552-8917. ​

Thanks,
Sandy​

From: kludge
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:30 AM
To: Stark, Sandra
Subject: RE: Gun permit​

Dear Sandy,

Hence the question. Is it legal or illegal? The Attourney General's office was also unable to answer this question. Since it is not covered in law does that mean it's legal? I know you probably can't answer that, but maybe you can answer this: Will I be arrested because I'm carrying a photocopy of a handgun license?

Now that we have lifetime licenses, there's little chance that a piece of pink 20# paper is going to last. Furthermore, the size of the license is problematic. The license comes with the recommendation to laminate the license, however, when laminated the license no longer fits the standard card slot in a wallet.

There are a number of us discussing these issues on an online forum, and we're trying to get good information.

Thanks for you help!

Best regards,
kludge

Subject: Re: Gun permit
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:14:20 -0400
From: SStark@isp.IN.gov
To: kludge
​

Dear Mr. kludge:​

There is nothing in the Indiana State codes that address this issue. If you have any other questions, please let us know.​

Thanks,
Sandy Stark
Indiana State Police Firearms Section
Indiana Government Center North
100 N Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-232-8264
​

 

[indyninja]

cool

 

[karlsgunbunker]

A replacement copy is $20.
How are they going to tell a copy from the original, if you use the right color paper and a good copier?

 

[esrice]

Based upon the recommendation of another member, I will be making several copies of my lifetime permit, then signing each one individually and laminating them. One for each car, one for the safe box, one for wallet, one to keep in safe place at remote location, etc.

This is a "lifetime" permit, and I need them to last a lifetime.

 

[4sarge]

A replacement copy is $20.
How are they going to tell a copy from the original, if you use the right color paper and a good copier?

and you sir are the winner the State uses stock paper available almost anywhere

unless you display multiple licenses or volunteer information that it is a copy no one else will know but you.

 

[bwframe]

Stir the pot a little deeper;
What if you shrunk it down just a little, so it would better fit in your wallet?

 

[esrice]

Stir the pot a little deeper;
What if you shrunk it down just a little, so it would better fit in your wallet?

What if you scanned it and uploaded it to your Blackberry in .jpg format!

hahaha

Good thinking BW.

 

[Ri22o]

What if you scanned it and uploaded it to your Blackberry in .jpg format!

Can I do that?

 

[Scutter01]

I know a few people who have scanned them into high-quality lossless (NOT jpg!) format and then they just print off a copy whenever they need one.

 

[pinhead56]

hmm, this sounds like a good question for Bryan Lee Ciyou Esq's book "Indiana Handgun Law". Let's see... on pg 41 in section 2.22 "Replacement of Lost or Damaged License", he basically says that you should just request a replacement for $20 especially considering that some businesses take it for secondary identification and given that identity theft is a serious current issue. I'm not sure what that says about making a copy... although I did and I hope to never need them!

laminate, laminate, laminate to make it last as long as possible

 

[bwframe]

hmm, this sounds like a good question for Bryan Lee Ciyou Esq's book "Indiana Handgun Law". Let's see... on pg 41 in section 2.22 "Replacement of Lost or Damaged License", he basically says that you should just request a replacement for $20 especially considering that some businesses take it for secondary identification and given that identity theft is a serious current issue. I'm not sure what that says about making a copy... although I did and I hope to never need them!

laminate, laminate, laminate to make it last as long as possible

IMHO this would be an excellent opportunity to contact him with this question. Icing on the cake would be notification that INGO exists. He needs to be a member!

 

[scully]

I copied mine at kinko's. Look just like the original's. This allows me to keep a copy in each vehicle(along with the registrations). No matter where I go there is always a copy with me. Seems like good insurance to me.

 

[esrice]

IMHO this would be an excellent opportunity to contact him with this question. Icing on the cake would be notification that INGO exists. He needs to be a member!

Sounds like an excellent idea.

Here is what I sent:

To: bryanlciyou@sbcglobal.net
From: esrice@yahoo.com
RE: New Firearms Forum in Indiana

Mr. Ciyou,

I had the pleasure of meeting you and your wife Julie at the Indy 1500 Gun & Knife show in 2007. My father and I were introduced by a co-worker of his named Terry F*****. We purchased a copy of "Indiana Handgun Law" and now keep it as a reference manual for whenever we have questions. I also keep your card in my wallet behind my Indiana LTCH.

Although I'm sure you are a very busy man, I would like to invite you to join a growing internet-based firearms community specifically for the residents of Indiana. It was started in January as a means of connecting Hoosiers with an interest in various topics ranging from reloading ammunition to self-defense and the law.

There are currently 460 registered members, and that number grows every day. It is truly an example of "an armed forum is a polite forum".

The site can be accessed at INGunOwners - Indiana Gun Owners Community

Thanks for your time and your service to the firearms community.

Sincerely,

Evan R***
Indianapolis, IN

 

[465guy]

Great idea and thanks for contacting him esrice! I hope he comes on here and educates us on some things. For him I would think it would be an excellent way to get some clients as well.

 

[esrice]

The only thing I worry about is how much of a "disclaimer" he'll legally have to have to post such things online. It would be AWESOME to have his knowledge on tap, but I'm sure he doesn't want some dufus shooting someone and then claiming "Well Bryan Ciyou said it was justified on INGO!" lol

 

[Fenway]

Thanks Evan!

Sounds like an excellent idea.

Here is what I sent:

 

[Thickburger]

what is the point to the permit copy? the only person asking to see your permit should be law enforcement; and the permit is attached to your driver's license. anytime an LEO runs your license it pops up that you have a permit to carry.