Pence 2024

[INPatriot]

I jest....

He is the first VP that I recall, hyphenating his last name with the last name of the President when referring to an Administration.

He is the first VP that I recall saying "our Administration." I only recall Presidents speaking in such terms.

He was a disappointment as Governor and is not Executive material. Though I do believe this run is to impress the suits and elevate his status for a position in a lobbying firm, think tank or corporate board.

 

[KG1]

Nope.

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[Magyars]

Not worthy

 

[MuttX7]

Too bad it's for real and not a story from the Onion.

 

[DragonGunner]

I like to ask Pence, aka Judas if he wasn’t man enough to tell Trump he was upholding the Biden vote days ahead of time, what makes anyone think he is going to have the stones to stand up against democrats or world outlaws? Someone get me in his next town hall meeting.

 

[asevans]

He hasn’t got a chance. Money laundering scheme.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Greg Foreman is fired up on Judas-Pence...

 

[KG1]

#Pence corrects #Trump supporter

#MikePence corrected a #Trump supporter about the events of #Jan6 , reiterating that he did not, as #vicepresident , have the power to overturn the electio...

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[caverjamie]

I jest....

He was a disappointment as Governor and is not Executive material. Though I do believe this run is to impress the suits and elevate his status for a position in a lobbying firm, think tank or corporate board.

Really? A disappointment as governor and not executive material? Are we talking about Pence or Trump? You know, the guy who has been indicted twice, and impeached twice.

I get it, you want an ******* and a bully in the White House. And I think you may be right to want that these days. Pence isn’t enough of either of those things for you. But give me a break - he did fine as Governor in my opinion. Better than I could, he got elected and I never could. If he had done what you want on January 6, it would have been a disaster for the country. Maybe even civil war. Election fraud needs to be stopped long before that point. I recommend finding someone else to blame.

 

[KLB]

Really? A disappointment as governor and not executive material? Are we talking about Pence or Trump? You know, the guy who has been indicted twice, and impeached twice.

I get it, you want an ******* and a bully in the White House. And I think you may be right to want that these days. Pence isn’t enough of either of those things for you. But give me a break - he did fine as Governor in my opinion. Better than I could, he got elected and I never could. If he had done what you want on January 6, it would have been a disaster for the country. Maybe even civil war. Election fraud needs to be stopped long before that point. I recommend finding someone else to blame.

Your definition of being a good Governor is being able to get elected?

I guess Biden is a good President too then. He got elected.

 

[jamil]

Greg Foreman is fired up on Judas-Pence...

Judas? Really? Did Judus Pence really sell out Jesus Trump for 30 pieces of silver?

I don't like Pence either. He was a ****** governor, and is a smarmy chamber-o-commerce loving self righteous ********er. But he could not have gone along with Trump's hairbrained scheme to stay in power. It was never going to work. Courts would have slapped the **** out of every orifice of both of them, and rightly so. And devout Trumpers supporting that would have become a small fringe group. Pence did Trump a favor there.

 

[jamil]

Really? A disappointment as governor and not executive material? Are we talking about Pence or Trump? You know, the guy who has been indicted twice, and impeached twice.

That's correct. Pence is a smarmy ********er. He belongs nowhere near the seat of any power.

The two impeachments were ******** political nonsense. The two indictments are ******** political nonsense.

I get it, you want an ******* and a bully in the White House.

I think we already have a bully in the white house. As president, Trump was no more a bully than any other Republican POTUS.

And I think you may be right to want that these days. Pence isn’t enough of either of those things for you. But give me a break - he did fine as Governor in my opinion. Better than I could, he got elected and I never could. If he had done what you want on January 6, it would have been a disaster for the country. Maybe even civil war. Election fraud needs to be stopped long before that point. I recommend finding someone else to blame.

We're not measuring a "good" governor against you. Or me. We're measuring against what a good governor should be. I want a governor who puts Hoosiers first, not the chamber-o-commerce. Not the establishment. Mike Pence fondles the Indiana Republican establishment's nads. He's one of them.

But I do agree that Pence did not have the authority to do what Trump demanded of him. Pence probably saved the country from a constitutional crisis. I think what Trump tried to do was at the advice of a legal team who wanted to explore an esoteric legal theory. Bad advice from bad lawyers + a politician who believed he'd been ****ed (which he was, but not Kraken-****ed) and desperate to stay in office = disaster.

 

[KG1]

He was a better Govenor than what I would've been isn't a very good argument.

 

[BugI02]

Really? A disappointment as governor and not executive material? Are we talking about Pence or Trump? You know, the guy who has been indicted twice, and impeached twice.

I get it, you want an ******* and a bully in the White House. And I think you may be right to want that these days. Pence isn’t enough of either of those things for you. But give me a break - he did fine as Governor in my opinion. Better than I could, he got elected and I never could. If he had done what you want on January 6, it would have been a disaster for the country. Maybe even civil war. Election fraud needs to be stopped long before that point. I recommend finding someone else to blame.

IMO Pence knows that he wasn't preventing a civil war by opting for creeping totalitarianism/socialism over forcing the issue, his only goal was to try to wriggle out from any responsibility for where we end up so he wouldn't have to find a real job

Establishment GOP in a nutshell. 'We're better than that' while the USS Constitution takes on water

 

[1DOWN4UP]

He is only here as a puppet to shave points from the frontrunner.

 

[jamil]

He is only here as a puppet to shave points from the frontrunner.

Who? Caverjamie?

WTF? So anyone has an opinion on Trump you don’t like they’re just a puppet sent by the overseers to shave points? Is that rational? Or do you have some info no one else has?

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Who? Caverjamie?

WTF? So anyone has an opinion on Trump you don’t like they’re just a puppet sent by the overseers to shave points? Is that rational? Or do you have some info no one else has?

Lordy,IMO. His Iowa townhall back in June,he drew maybe 7 people to listen to him.? WtF is he still here for?

 

[jamil]

Lordy,IMO. His Iowa townhall back in June,he drew maybe 7 people to listen to him.? WtF is he here for?

Hard to tell what you were referring to since you didn't quote it. The immediate discussion was replies to caverjamie. Pence a shill? I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but there really isn't any evidence of that other than that he's running, and he has basically no chance of wining. He'll bow out soon enough. Remember Dan Quayle? Remember he ran for POTUS after GHWB's term? Yeah. He had no chance either. And he bowed out early after it became obvious to him.

If Pence stays in long after he gets the obvious usual signals during the primaries that he's done, and he doesn't bow out, then maybe you have some reason to wonder if he's a shill. I think as someone else said, he's after something else from this. If he gets a good showing in the primaries, maybe he can get a cushy cabinet position or a job with a big lobbying firm.

 

[BE Mike]

I don't think Pence is electable as president. I do believe he is a man of strong principles and faith. Maybe that's why I think he is unelectable.

 

[jamil]

IMO Pence knows that he wasn't preventing a civil war by opting for creeping totalitarianism/socialism over forcing the issue, his only goal was to try to wriggle out from any responsibility for where we end up so he wouldn't have to find a real job

Establishment GOP in a nutshell. 'We're better than that' while the USS Constitution takes on water

I don't think that's true. I don't believe Pence thought that switching slates of electors was a legitimate option, because it's not. I doubt it would have caused a civil war, though. I think it would have caused a constitutional crisis. And I think if Pence had done it, it would have soured even more people against Trump.

Biden won the election, whether by hook or crook. Pence, for all his faults is savvy enough to know that the legal theory Trump was trying to exploit was ********. The courts would certainly have ruled against Trump. Pence didn't choose between creeping totalitarianism/socialism over Trump because he did not have that power. No one would have seen that hair brained scheme to switch electors as legitimate except ardent Trumpers.