Open Carry elicits aggressive and fearful behavior from onlookers

[2A_Tom]

Yes I know where it is.

So you wus nod yolkin?

 

[actaeon277]

Wow, I go away for a couple hours, and I can't even muli-post everything. The computer says I'm going to have to break up the post.

lmao, anti gunner because you want to walk around with a fully loaded rifle because, uh its my right? you remind me of the abortion on demand crowd who call someone who opposes late term abortions -anti choice..

No. You are being called a anti-gunner because the MDA (Mothers that Demand Action), and a couple police chiefs have stated that people should call the police when they see a gun. Even if it is legal.
This is to make it more difficult for someone to carry.
Cause even if you Conceal Carry, it's NOT INVISIBLE.

So, you don't like the rifle, call the police.
Someone doesn't like your concealed weapon, call the police.
Congratulations. You have just used their arguments against yourself.

nope i am against naive gun owners who apparently live in a bubble. open carry of rifles is useless, provocative and unnecessary and makes gun owners look bad...

I am against naïve gun owners who apparently live in a bubble.
I just think we're talking about different bubbles.
Rifles used to be carried.
People might be scared, the media says how bad they are. People even point to a bolt action Ruger M-77, and call it an assault rifle.
Maybe, they might notice that people aren't being shot.

i also believe in cc permits, people voluntarily signing up for gun safety and self defense classes, guess by your thinking that makes me anti gun too...

CC permits leans you to anti-gun. Does a criminal guarding his "stash" get a permit/license???? That's right, just us.
By the way, we don't have a CC license/permit.
Most of the people, if not all, that you are talking to now recommend people VOLUNTARILY sign up for gun classes, and/or self defense classes. Most, but not all, are AGAINST MANDATORY training.

nope, i don't do you think states requiring you to have a ccw are infringing on your rights?

Yes, that silly piece of paper is infringing on my rights. Because I obey the law, I need it. The criminal, well, I kinda doubt he's getting a license. But he probably is carrying.

Um yes. I would remove my kids from the situation. Do you recommend I start a fight with him instead?

no i recommend you call law enforcement when you see someone with an inappropriate weapon in an inappropriate situation..

I recommend you call the police when someone is breaking the law.
If they are not, and you are uncomfortable, leave.
If enough people leave, the owner of the establishment will ask him/her to leave.

you are for losing our hard won victories...

Some say that about Open Carry. Yet I've had good dialogs with people.
Some say that about carrying at all. A few decades ago, I was "informed" by an officer that you couldn't carry. That the license was for you to carry at home.
So we must be losing our hard won victories....... WAIT. WHAT???
Hard won victories.
All we have done, is give ground. Every new gun control act (federal). Every new GFZ. Every new law about what you can carry, or where, or who.
And yet.....THE CRIMINALS DON'T CARE.

What's a gang banger?

Maybe he's talking pornographic, in which case I will not define it.
Maybe he means gang member.

ding ding we have a winner. carrying around a fully loaded rifle is like an unsheathed machete. no one is comfortable with a stranger having one, everyone is comfortable with themselves carrying it.

Actually, a machete is always loaded. The sheath has nothing to do with it.

 

[actaeon277]

Well, apparently it only allows 10 in a mutli-quote.

The safety of my kids is paramount. I walk away. If it's in a sheath, I stay.

ding ding we have a winner. carrying around a fully loaded rifle is like an unsheathed machete. no one is comfortable with a stranger having one, everyone is comfortable with themselves carrying it.

I don't see how the two statements are the same.
He'd walk away.
Quite a bit different than calling the police.
If I'm in a restaurant and someone is using curse words, and I don't want to listen to it, I move, or I leave.
I don't call the police because that man is "being reckless" with his free speech.

So regardless of whether or not they are breaking a law, we should just profile by using race/socio-economic status and call the cops on them...classy.

Well, often the tolerant, are the intolerant ones. They are only tolerant, when you agree with them.

nope you just cant accept any limitations or common sense. people like you give the nra a bad name...

Accept limitations? You mean like FOLLOW THE LAW. Dang, you figured us out. All of us are law breakers.
OR. We follow the law, and are tired of people making stuff up, then calling it COMMON SENSE.
Especially, when common sense means, "agree with everything I said".

why? its legal, its their right, they havent threatened you. because you know its inappropriate and foolish and you err on the side of your kids safety..

I think I already mentioned this above.

you are the enemy that shows upon the 6 oclock news as the gun nut...

Really? Most of these guys/gals have been carrying guns for decades. I know I've been shooting maybe 3 decades, almost 4. And I've been carrying for 2 decades, a bit over.
And yet....... I'm still not on the news, and most of these guys aren't. And most of the newsworthy stuff..... a protest. Some people here help the community, get in the news.
Oh wait, did you mean for doing something wrong?

you oc people are just another school shooting away from having the hammer down on you. i can see it now, some school shooting and then a oc carry person on the news, its my right to carry my ar 15 loaded into mcdonalds and off to the races we go. thats why the nra is lukewarm at best to open carry...

you CC people are just another school shooting away from having the hammer down on you
There. It works for you too.
you knife carrying people are just another school stabbing away from having the hammer down on you
How about that.

you are lying, you would leave because he represents a threat to your kids... nice try

I guess we can add mind reading to your abilities.
Wait. Mom? Is that you? No, probably not. She used to tell me "why" I did things, or at least what she thought.
But she's not scared of guns.

just what i thought, irrelevant and fringe thinking...

Yup. Fringe.
That whole, "follow the Constitution", and "the laws of the land apply to the government also" thing, fringe thinking.
Maybe I should join your side (whatever side that is, I haven't figured it out), and start bowing down and praising whoever is put in charge of me, cause they know better.

Because he is carrying it in an Uncle Mike's holster!!

Now that is a reason to call the police.

 

[actaeon277]

People like you are the reason we've lost so much over the years and have had such a hard fight getting back even little slivers at a time. You are as much our enemy as anyone.

Reputation must be spread before giving bla bla bla.

Does this guys arguing remind anyone of a former member here that use to stir the pot a lot?

I have no idea who you are talking about.

Your use of the term "gun nut" proves my contention that you're no friend of ours.

Actually, I use that term on myself.
Wear it with pride.

Lol. You really don't have a clue.

Oh, he has a clue. He just has trouble figuring out what to do with it.

THEN I might make a call to 911

thanks for clearing that up, even unqualified to handle the weapon you would then only think of calling the cops, nice...

Huh. What?

well adios , back to that current "in fashion" thinking, gun ownership with responsibility, upholding our 2a victories and not alienating voters with a screw you attitude. remember , you are only a phone call away from a law enforcement call when you parade your rifle around irresponsibly...

And you are so close to being arrested for making a false report.
Thank you for posting online that you are going to do it.
You see, if you had just called, you could have claimed you didn't know.
But, I'm sure if they wanted to spend the energy, after you made a call, especially if something happened as a result of that, you would be accused of false reporting.
And if someone were hurt as a result, well, don't they have a charge for that also??

That's cool. I like cops. I'm happy to have a chat with them about the weather and whatnot and then be on my way.

What would happen if he called a cop to check you out, while you were talking with an off duty cop?
Interesting??
I wonder if he knows we have many law enforcement as members here?

At least we know who to direct the authorities to for false reporting in the Atlanta, Cicero, Noblesville area.

15 pages 148 posts. I can't believe I read that whole thread.

Where do these people come from? I read that whole thing and now he's gone.

Isn't it illegal to call the police for no reason, I always thought making false report was against law. He knows the person not breaking the law. Why would he call the police?

IC 35-44.1-2-3 Version b
False reporting
(d) A person who:
(1) gives a false report of the commission of a crime or gives false information in the official investigation of the commission of a crime, knowing the report or information to be false;
commits false informing, a Class B misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if it substantially hinders any law enforcement process or if it results in harm to another person.

Since there are limited number police and their job is to investigate crimes, to control accident situations and such taking way from their actual business would did wrong

Yup.

 

[actaeon277]

Because it is illegal to carry a handgun in Indiana and it is stupid to carry a rifle, 911 operators just pass it along.

I think you left out the part where we are all "poo-poo heads".

If I see some guy walking down the street openly carrying a rifle, I'll definitely call the police. Why? Because I assume he must be one of these three cases:

1. He is on his way to a mass murder.

2. He is too stupid to realize that his defensive needs are met with a smaller firearm. Perhaps the cops can set him straight. Or if he is really that stupid, he'll definitely need help finding his way home. Please, no "outside voice" with the nice men in blue.

3. He is a narcissist begging for attention, but he's too embarrassed about it so he pretends he is trying to make a point about 2A. In that case, I'll help a brother out by giving him some of that attention he craves. I'll waive to him just so he can get me on his Hero cam. See you on Youtube!

Depends on what kind of reaction shot the Hero cam guy wants. Maybe I'll throw my hat down on the ground, stomp on it, and shake my first. But I was rather hoping for a dramatic monologue from Richard II.

And when someone sees your pistol? And thinks the same way about it?
Or, IS YOUR GUN OKAY? Just the OTHER GUY'S GUN that's NOT okay.

 

[bingley]

Or, IS YOUR GUN OKAY? Just the OTHER GUY'S GUN that's NOT okay.

My gun is a beautiful 1911. Why wouldn't it be OK? When men see it, they want to be me. When women see it, they swoon, overcome with their passion for me.

It's those ugly Glocks that are an offense to good citizens everywhere.

 

[actaeon277]

My gun is a beautiful 1911. Why wouldn't it be OK? When men see it, they want to be me. When women see it, they swoon, overcome with their passion for me.

It's those ugly Glocks that are an offense to good citizens everywhere.

That may be the best post ever.
But now I don't know if you're funnin.

 

[actaeon277]

Just thought I'd leave this here.

[video=youtube;XRGd0gD0QNE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGd0gD0QNE[/video]

 

[Lectric102002]

My gun is a beautiful 1911. Why wouldn't it be OK? When men see it, they want to be me. When women see it, they swoon, overcome with their passion for me.

It's those ugly Glocks that are an offense to good citizens everywhere.

Hey, we're getting better ! It usually takes a couple hundred posts to start the Glock-bashing. Only 166 this time.

 

[SkullDaddy.45]

Couldn't get past the name being Dong! Thought of the movie 16 candles , and lost interest. Meh!

 

[nakinate]

So now the question is, does Williepete come back or was that a one time trolling expedition?

 

[Thrown Hammer]

What kills me is Petey thinks the OC people are anti gun and he it's a shining light on the hill of freedom.

Or he is just a liberal troll using circular logic to feel better about himself.

If I see someone in public with an AR slung in their back they get extra attention. That is all. I am not the thought police, nor do I enforce pre crime.

When I am being aware of my surroundings the guy with the rifle gets a higher percentage of my awareness. :-)

 

[stormryder]

Last time I had a LEO called on me for OCing, and making an individual nervous.
This is the conversation after showing my LTC.
1-Am I breaking the Law? (No)
2-How is making an individual nervous my problem? I have not said or did anything threatening to this person or persons. (I was in Krogers)
Would you be here if someone called because I was riding my Buell w/Colors on?(Not likely)
I was left go and thanked for being calm about this.

Side note- Apparently the person who called, saw the conversation, confronted the Officer, got vocal and was ejected from the store.

On the issue on carrying a Rifle everywhere. Let's get people use to seeing people OCing Handguns everywhere first.
Soon as I can get a holster for My Ar pistol made, I am going to OC that and see what happens.

 

[Dirtebiker]

By the way,I see someone walking around with a machete, I'm calling the cops. Legal yes, out of the ordinary yep. Carrying an ar 15 openly gives ammo to gun haters to paint gun owners as wackos and I refuse to give those a holes any help at all...

Your digging yourself deeper and deeper!

 

[Dirtebiker]

illegal, no. i think it should be controlled for lack of a better word. want to walk up to a daycare with a loaded ar 15 to pick up your kids? nope. want to carry it back to your car from the range sure. want to walk around on your property sure go for it. devils is in the details. we are involved in shooting, most people are not and nearly faint at the sight of a pistol. i think oc of pistols is something that people could deal with eventually. walking around with a ar 15 fully loaded is a bridge too far in this country after all that has happened....

and remember i am a life member who owns an ar 15, several pistols and goes to the gun range every week, imagine what a sheeple who only gets their news from the liberal media feels like when they see this happen...

It is very sad to say that there are others in the NRA with the same views! Too many!

 

[Dirtebiker]

lmao, anti gunner because you want to walk around with a fully loaded rifle because, uh its my right? you remind me of the abortion on demand crowd who call someone who opposes late term abortions -anti choice..

Is it ok if it only PARTIALLY loaded?

 

[daddyusmaximus]

Last time I had a LEO called on me for OCing, and making an individual nervous.
This is the conversation after showing my LTC.
1-Am I breaking the Law? (No)
2-How is making an individual nervous my problem? I have not said or did anything threatening to this person or persons. (I was in Krogers)
Would you be here if someone called because I was riding my Buell w/Colors on?(Not likely)
I was left go and thanked for being calm about this.

Side note- Apparently the person who called, saw the conversation, confronted the Officer, got vocal and was ejected from the store.

That's funny right there...

On the issue on carrying a Rifle everywhere. Let's get people use to seeing people OCing Handguns everywhere first.
Soon as I can get a holster for My Ar pistol made, I am going to OC that and see what happens.

That last bit will probably make the evening news.

 

[Dirtebiker]

Name calling now?

Naki, you're not only silly, but obtuse! So there!

 

[Dirtebiker]

damn straight

If that's the case, just admit to being a racist so you can be banned without all this back and forth!

 

[2A_Tom]

Obtuse, obtuse! How dare you call me obtuse! I'm acute li'll fellow!