Obama would have been eligible for the presidency even if he wasn't born here.

[tuoder]

Romney to Trump: Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate - Daniel Freedman - Freed Thinking - Forbes

According to Romney family lawyers it doesn’t matter if Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, Kenya, or even Paris: Because his mother was an American (and not even Donald Trump questions that), he is eligible to be President.

 

[sbcman]

my bad- wrong thread

This says it all

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs[/ame]

 

[redneckmedic]

After Obama let loose his birth (berff) certificate he stated. "We don't have time for this circus act. There is more prolific stuff on the table."

Then he boarded a plane to do Opra show. Well Played POTUS.

Clearly he felt he had something to prove.... or to gain, like polling numbers. As this birth cert thing has now climaxed this week he numbers dropped.... now that he has proved it... they are (maybe) starting to rise again. Reelection is his priority, not the country. I bet as we get closer to election time, you will see fuel price start to drop, call me crazy.

 

[E5RANGER375]

After Obama let loose his birth (berff) certificate he stated. "We don't have time for this circus act. There is more prolific stuff on the table."

Then he boarded a plane to do Opra show. Well Played POTUS.

Clearly he felt he had something to prove.... or to gain, like polling numbers. As this birth cert thing has now climaxed this week he numbers dropped.... now that he has proved it... they are (maybe) starting to rise again. Reelection is his priority, not the country. I bet as we get closer to election time, you will see fuel price start to drop, call me crazy.

EPIC POST!!!!!! this is T-Shirt material right here!!!!

 

[tuoder]

Why support people that uses shoddy reasoning to support shoddy research to fuel conspiracy theories about nothing?

 

[Bill of Rights]

Romney to Trump: Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate - Daniel Freedman - Freed Thinking - Forbes

I didn't read the link, but IIRC, the law at the time of his birth provided that to pass citizenship, his mother would have had to not only have been a US citizen, but she would have to have been one for five years following her 14th birthday. As she was 18 at the time of his birth, that was not possible.

One more reason to not vote for Romney OR Barry, as if I needed a reason in either case.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[88GT]

His mother may have become a U.S. citizen, but isn't the scuttlebutt that at the time of the Kenyan's (no, I'm not going to stop calling him that) birth, she had not been here for sufficient duration to achieve citizen status? Something like 5 years, and she'd only been here 3 when he was born?

Edit: yeah, what he said ^^

 

[Que]

Whenever I've traveled overseas, I have had to obtain a passport and a visa in some cases. If the President were born in Kenya, couldn't his mothers' documents be traced? After all, in order for him to have been born in Kenya, she would have had to be there, right? And in order for her to travel to Kenya, wouldn't she need a passport?

Just in case someone thinks I got it wrong, I heard that he was born in Kenya earlier today.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Whenever I've traveled overseas, I have had to obtain a passport and a visa in some cases. If the President were born in Kenya, couldn't his mothers' documents be traced? After all, in order for him to have been born in Kenya, she would have had to be there, right? And in order for her to travel to Kenya, wouldn't she need a passport?

Just in case someone thinks I got it wrong, I heard that he was born in Kenya earlier today.

unfortunately, not back then

 

[dross]

Well I never been to Kenya
But I've been to Oklahoma
Oh they tell me I was born there
But I really don't remember
In Oklahoma
Not Na-nairobi,
What does it matter, what does it matter

 

[tuoder]

His mother is a natural born US citizen.

 

[Bill of Rights]

His mother is a natural born US citizen.

Which, as posted earlier, is irrelevant.

 

[tuoder]

Which, as posted earlier, is irrelevant.

You're welcome to read the article I posted.

 

[CarmelHP]

After Obama let loose his birth (berff) certificate he stated. "We don't have time for this circus act. There is more prolific stuff on the table."

Then he boarded a plane to do Opra show. Well Played POTUS.

Clearly he felt he had something to prove.... or to gain, like polling numbers. As this birth cert thing has now climaxed this week he numbers dropped.... now that he has proved it... they are (maybe) starting to rise again. Reelection is his priority, not the country. I bet as we get closer to election time, you will see fuel price start to drop, call me crazy.

That's impossible, as the INGObamapologists told us, the birther talk only helped him.

 

[Rob377]

I didn't read the link, but IIRC, the law at the time of his birth provided that to pass citizenship, his mother would have had to not only have been a US citizen, but she would have to have been one for five years following her 14th birthday. As she was 18 at the time of his birth, that was not possible.

One more reason to not vote for Romney OR Barry, as if I needed a reason in either case.

Blessings,
Bill

Yep.

8 USC 1401(g) (as of 1961)

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of the United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
...
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:

The law was changed back in '86 making it 5 years, at least 2 of which were after 14.
Under current law, it wouldn't matter. Under the law at the time, it would. Courts consistently held that the amendments are not retroactive.

All that said, the birther thing is a low percentage tactic. My $.02 is that given the facts on the ground as they are, there are better things to use to get Barry out of office.

 

[BigMatt]

I love Haiku...

Well I never been to Kenya
But I've been to Oklahoma
Oh they tell me I was born there
But I really don't remember
In Oklahoma
Not Na-nairobi,
What does it matter, what does it matter

 

[Bill of Rights]

You're welcome to read the article I posted.

I have now done so, and as before, it's still irrelevant. His mother could not give him US citizenship by birth under the laws in place at the time. To attempt to change that after the fact is to violate Article I, Sec. 9 as an ex post facto law.

Rob377 was kind enough to post the law.

Yep.

8 USC 1401(g) (as of 1961)



The law was changed back in '86 making it 5 years, at least 2 of which were after 14.
Under current law, it wouldn't matter. Under the law at the time, it would. Courts consistently held that the amendments are not retroactive.

All that said, the birther thing is a low percentage tactic. My $.02 is that given the facts on the ground as they are, there are better things to use to get Barry out of office.

Apparently, it's something the Romney family attorneys need to read as well, or perhaps just something the Obamapologist author needs to stop disregarding.

Rob, you're correct in that this will not be used to declare him Constitutionally unqualified to hold the office, nor to repeal his actions while occupying it. This, to me is only further proof of the two big parties being Jekyll and Hyde, two sides of the same coin: a bad penny that just keeps coming back.

There are alternatives. Sure, they're not perfect, but they're a d*** sight better than what we started off with has become.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Bill of Rights]

I love Haiku...

I like it also, but this ain't it.

This is a slight but clever rewrite of "Never Been To Spain", by Three Dog Night, IIRC.

Well I never been to Kenya
But I've been to Oklahoma
Oh they tell me I was born there
But I really don't remember
In Oklahoma
Not Na-nairobi,
What does it matter, what does it matter

How about this instead, BigMatt:

Hope and Change working?
The country is in shambles.
Obama worthless.

Or:

The joke is over;
Return our Constitution.
We're sick of this .

Blessings,
Bill

 

[dross]

Please let's move on now
The election is in twelve
This won't help us win

 

[BigMatt]

I knew the syllables didn't work out for Haiku, but I didn't recognize the song.