M1a questions

[Bowman78]

Got a chance to pick up a sprinfield m1a with a Kreiger barrel and match sights and bedded action in wood... Curious of what the value of such a piece might be??? Have tried to look up used m1a values but this is obviously modified so what might it be worth???

 

[87iroc]

There have been a few that have sold in the classifieds...you might start there to figure it out.

 

[red_zr24x4]

Check out M14 Forum - M14 Forum for M14 M1A Rifles .
After the last panic M1A's have really went up in price.

 

[Sgt7330]

I guess the answer is it depends, but I agree with above and do some digging on other sites. I built my M14 and spend $2000. Base M1A's I think are around $1500 again, if you look hard, so go from there. Round count and barrel wear on the prospective rifle, date of manufacture by the serial number on receiver. Check parts, is it all commercial Springfield or does it have some nice USGI M14 parts in it.

 

[03A3]

It's hard to say the way things have been going.
I did take a quick look at the Bud's Gun Shop site.
Of course they are out of stock, but the prices listed for different versions of the SAI Supermatch ranged from $2,400 to over $3,000.

 

[Bowman78]

Well, I need to get the serial num but I know it's a low.. The things I noticed was the Kreiger barrel and a trw bolt carrier assem and the stock work and the rear of the reciever has been welded/ modified??? Is this common.. I've seen it on a few others I've looked at...

 

[indyjohn]

... and the rear of the reciever has been welded/ modified??? Is this common..

No.

If you can find a pic of what you are describing, I would be interested in seeing it.

 

[Leo]

There were rewelds that the receivers were cut up M-14's (with auto selector switches) that were salvaged. They were legal at that time. I remember something about the rewelds becoming illegal during the clinton years with the once a "machine gun, always a machinegun" opinion of antigun lawmakers. An M14 has an extra lug inside for the fire control group and of course the hole for the selector switch. Some of the reweld rifles functioned fine if the gunsmith was able to keep everything lined up in proper alignment during the welding and re machining. Some would have problems, even to the point of spitting the bolt out of the channels when firing full power ammo. Proceed with caution.

There is also a modification where they weld a lug on the back of the receiver (about under the brand and serial number stamp). This extra lug keep the receiver more steady in the stock and made for a more accurate rifle. You can still buy fresh "rear lugged" receivers for about $800 of you are building a serious match M1a. This is a good upgrade.

Look for a welded up hole for a selector switch. I do not know who to check with about current legality of rewelds. Maybe call the ATF to check on current laws.

 

[indyjohn]

Leo has described well the M14 and why you might see weld points on those receivers.

Therefore... what the OP is looking at is, in fact, not an M1A as manufactured by Springfield Armory in Illinois.

That changes the value structure significantly.

 

[Bowman78]

The gun is labeled as an m1a and I'm assuming the mod is for support in the rear of the stock??? No pics handy currently..

 

[red_zr24x4]

Sounds like it has rear lugs, which I think means it would be a match or super-match, as my Standard doesn't have rear lugs, I'm not sure about the other model..can't seem to remember what they called it

 

[indyjohn]

The gun is labeled as an m1a and I'm assuming the mod is for support in the rear of the stock??? No pics handy currently..

I wouldn't assume anything that has exposed welding on the receiver. I've never seen what you describe on a gun that came from the factory and I've been looking at them for "a few" years.

If anyone has seen a factory Springfield with what Bowman describes, please advise.

 

[Patriot3]

depends on what the model is. if it is a standard and he just added some parts its worth maybe gun shop prices on the standard if its used with all the mods. putting aftermarket modifications to guns then selling them never turns profit unless the person is particularly unfair.

 

[bruno1371]

Just put a new m1a standard in layaway. I thought 1070$ out the door was good. I can't wait to get it out after Christmas!

 

[NyleRN]

Just put a new m1a standard in layaway. I thought 1070$ out the door was good. I can't wait to get it out after Christmas!

Where in the world did you get an M1A for a grand? Used?

 

[SaintsNSinners]

I too am curious to see this... I have my hands on alot of the M1A's that seem to come acrossed for sale or trade in Indy.... Lets see some pics OP

 

[BGDave]

In regard to legal military M1a's. I think I read in Dan Shea's book that TRW marked receivers are exempted from the NFA on a one by one serial number basis. Some of them were built as match rifles only. (no auto lug) Not to be confused with the rear lugs like Leo described. As usual, I could be mistaken.
Also put me in for where this Standard M1a was found.

 

[BGDave]

Sounds like it has rear lugs, which I think means it would be a match or super-match, as my Standard doesn't have rear lugs, I'm not sure about the other model..can't seem to remember what they called it

Think it is called a "Super Match".

 

[bruno1371]

Cool, sounds like I got a good deal for a grand. Found it at a pawnshop

 

[Colt556]