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  • DoggyDaddy

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    No, it's still obviously a firearm. That's why the "wallet holster" that allows the slide to be visible is not an AOW.
    I never knew this. I used to have a wallet holster that obscured the slide (for a Diamondback DB380). I *think* I still had access to the trigger, but don't really remember now since I got rid of it years ago. So I would have been in violation of the law for having it (and carrying it)? :faint: Glad I got rid of it if so! IIRC, I bought it at the 1500.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    I never knew this. I used to have a wallet holster that obscured the slide (for a Diamondback DB380). I *think* I still had access to the trigger, but don't really remember now since I got rid of it years ago. So I would have been in violation of the law for having it (and carrying it)? :faint: Glad I got rid of it if so! IIRC, I bought it at the 1500.

    Assuming you hadn't registered it as an AOW, yes, you would have been in violation of federal law. I don't know of any state law that independently applies.

    This is the image the ATF uses to demonstrate a wallet holster:

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    See: https://www.atf.gov/n/n/n/sites/default/files/wallet-holster-2.jpg


    And a letter that explains if it has to be opened (exposing the gun) to fire or doesn't hide the fact it's a gun, it's not the same:

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    DoggyDaddy

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    Assuming you hadn't registered it as an AOW, yes, you would have been in violation of federal law. I don't know of any state law that independently applies.

    This is the image the ATF uses to demonstrate a wallet holster:

    wallet-holster-2.jpg


    See: https://www.atf.gov/n/n/n/sites/default/files/wallet-holster-2.jpg


    And a letter that explains if it has to be opened (exposing the gun) to fire or doesn't hide the fact it's a gun, it's not the same:

    atf.jpg
    I thought I might still have a picture of it on my computer but apparently I don't. I wish I could remember for sure, but I remember thinking, "I could fire this while it's in the holster, but it wouldn't allow the slide to operate, so I'd only have one shot at best." I don't think it was designed to be used like that, but I do think it would have been possible.

    Scratch that. Found a pic and it did NOT allow access to the trigger. Whew!

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    BehindBlueI's

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    I thought I might still have a picture of it on my computer but apparently I don't. I wish I could remember for sure, but I remember thinking, "I could fire this while it's in the holster, but it wouldn't allow the slide to operate, so I'd only have one shot at best." I don't think it was designed to be used like that, but I do think it would have been possible.

    Scratch that. Found a pic and it did NOT allow access to the trigger. Whew!

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    Yup, that'd be fine as it would fit under #3. Basically just a very small gun case.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Yup, that'd be fine as it would fit under #3. Basically just a very small gun case.
    I think the opposite side was open-ish, so I might have had access to the trigger, but it wouldn't have been ideal. I do know that it could be drawn from without completely removing it from my back pocket, so maybe I just had access to the grip.
     

    littletommy

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    I thought I might still have a picture of it on my computer but apparently I don't. I wish I could remember for sure, but I remember thinking, "I could fire this while it's in the holster, but it wouldn't allow the slide to operate, so I'd only have one shot at best." I don't think it was designed to be used like that, but I do think it would have been possible.

    Scratch that. Found a pic and it did NOT allow access to the trigger. Whew!

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    Wow! You LITERALLY have a picture of it on your computer!
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    BryceB

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    Perhaps, but I'd have to question the mental acuity of anyone that would openly take his gun out and handle it in a Simon mall (GFZ, although the signs carry no force of law). Not sure if he'd be intelligent enough to understand anything someone would try to say to him.
    True I wouldn’t waist the time on that guy for him to not get anything out of it and most likely make a similar mistake later on. Sad truth
     
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