Landlords tell residents to take down American flag

[U.S. Patriot]

Landlords tell residents to take down American flag - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

 

[Jack1861]

Life, Liberty, Property.

Stars and stripes have not flown over our property for more than a decade... It was folded and put into storage long ago....replaced by the Gadsden.

 

[rambone]

If you don't own it... you don't make the rules. That's just how it is.

The guy is violating the lease that he signed his name on.

 

[Meezer]

If you don't own it... you don't make the rules. That's just how it is.

The guy is violating the lease that he signed his name on.

If the lease says no flags, no yard signs, no pets, etc., & you don't agree with those terms, don't sign the lease. This story is much to do over nothing. Violating your lease is never a good thing

 

[seamusalaska]

I guess I'm innocent. Are there leases that say no American flags?

 

[MrsGungho]

I guess I'm innocent. Are there leases that say no American flags?

from the article

copy of his lease, which said nothing could be hung or draped from the balcony.

so get a base that sits on the patio, a pole and fly the flag.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

so get a base that sits on the patio, a pole and fly the flag.

There you go. Read the lease very carefully and comply.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Landlords tell residents to take down American flag - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

eh, what do YOU know about such things?

 

[88GT]

There you go. Read the lease very carefully and comply.

Yeah, non-compliance can be costly. I'm due $100 by Sunday because of two lease violations clearly spelled out in the lease. This is in addition to the cost of repairs I will have to make to remove the jack-ass-installed cable/satellite lines.

Don't have much sympathy for tenants who violate the lease then whine about it.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

"Resident fails to comply with lease terms" probably wouldn't have gotten as many clicks, I guess.

As MrsGungHo pointed out, the residents can get a base and pole to fly the flag from. They get their flag, they abide by the terms of the lease, then win.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

After watching the video, it does state in his lease that nothing can be hung from the balcony. He can get a guide on and solve the problem. That was the issue when I was told to take mine down. Only the leasing agent would not clearify that to me, so I called the news.

 

[Hop]

Yeah, non-compliance can be costly. I'm due $100 by Sunday because of two lease violations clearly spelled out in the lease. This is in addition to the cost of repairs I will have to make to remove the jack-ass-installed cable/satellite lines.

Don't have much sympathy for tenants who violate the lease then whine about it.

Ya know... the FCC & the .gov will back a tennent that installs an antenna or mast to recieve OTA TV or Satelite. It cannot be written into a lease. I could find the case # for you if you want. But since it sounds like you won, you probably don't want to see it.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Ya know... the FCC & the .gov will back a tennent that installs an antenna or mast to recieve OTA TV or Satelite. It cannot be written into a lease. I could find the case # for you if you want. But since it sounds like you won, you probably don't want to see it.

Im guessing his beef is how the satellite installers operate. Rather than do it RIGHT by penetrating the exterior walls ONCE and distributing within the walls to all the TVs from there, they "neatly" run the wires along the outside and repeatedly penetrate the house where they want to install the jacks.

I dont care HOW neat they were when they did it. I have yet to see one that didnt look tacky. And of course they wont do it RIGHT because its too time consuming. One guy can knock out the entire house in half a day their way, but the same house done right can take several guys multiple days requiring specialized drill bits and LOTS of patience. Its just not cost effective for them.

 

[88GT]

Ya know... the FCC & the .gov will back a tennent that installs an antenna or mast to recieve OTA TV or Satelite. It cannot be written into a lease. I could find the case # for you if you want. But since it sounds like you won, you probably don't want to see it.

Yes, I would love for you to provide the legal precedent.

Never mind, found it. And it has nothing to do with the lease violations in questions. Thanks for playing though.

 

[Westside]

Yes, I would love for you to provide the legal precedent.

Never mind, found it. And it has nothing to do with the lease violations in questions. Thanks for playing though.

Installing Consumer-Owned Antennas and Satellite Dishes | FCC.gov

From the FCC website.
It does not cover the wires!!! just the antenna itself. so if as mentioned above if they ran wires all over the outside of building you can regulate that.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Yes, I would love for you to provide the legal precedent.

Never mind, found it. And it has nothing to do with the lease violations in questions. Thanks for playing though.

As I read the previous post I figured that even if there was some law/regulation/etc. that forbade a landlord from preventing a tenant from installing an antenna, it probably didn't give the tenant cart blanc to damage the landlord's property in doing so...am I reading the situation you're talking about correctly?

 

[Westside]

As I read the previous post I figured that even if there was some law/regulation/etc. that forbade a landlord from preventing a tenant from installing an antenna, it probably didn't give the tenant cart blanc to damage the landlord's property in doing so...am I reading the situation you're talking about correctly?

^^^ This


for example

allowed and protected because it doesn't damage the structure. (only the dishes not he wires)

or option 2

forbiddable (sic?) because it damages the structure

 

[KellyinAvon]

Read the document carefully, beat them at their own game.

 

[Hellion_1]

Read the document carefully, beat them at their own game.

Why play their game at all? Live on land with no covenants or restrictions.

I guess it depends on how much control you want to give up. Control vs. Convenience.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

I do recall this coming up last year.
On the news report last it was stated that condominiums, housing groups, etc cannot prevent owners from flying the american flag. But that law doesn't exist for apartment owners preventing their tenants from flying the flag.
As quoted on the report 'from a lawyer representing one of the apartment complexes' "The tenants have no first amendment rights".
Really? How does a tenant complain about an apartment complex's policies then?
I do understand signing a contract... But I do not understand how it is, that property owners (or those who 'lease' condo's) get different treatment from those who rent when it comes to patriotism?
I do realize flying a 50' flag from your second story balcony could be an issue. But surely there's got to be some middle ground (sadly involving 'more laws')?