IU grad workers vote to strike, picket on campus

[BigRed]

One thing the academy is very good at doing is making you feel like you're smart and valued, intrinsically, just for existing and participating. That goes away when you hit the real world. Very easy to be tempted into going back, thinking you'll feel that way again.

Next thing you know, you're in your 30s and owe $200,000 and have no worthwhile skills or experience.

Sounds like some "parents" I know these days.

 

[ljk]

My wife went through IU grad school in the 90's. She worked for 2 labs, spent 6 days a week there.

She graduated with dual Masters degrees debt free, handful of Letters of Recommendations, plus $20k of her won money in the bank. That gave her plenty of time to shop around for the perfect job for her.

Time has changed.

 

[bwframe]

IU Board of Trustees says no to a student labor union, grad workers prepare for fall strike

Indiana University graduate workers prepare for another strike in the fall after board of trustees denounce union efforts.

www.heraldtimesonline.com

 

[BigRed]

IU Board of Trustees says no to a student labor union, grad workers prepare for fall strike

Indiana University graduate workers prepare for another strike in the fall after board of trustees denounce union efforts.

www.heraldtimesonline.com

It's the answer to that old question.......

What if you went on strike, and nobody gave a rat's ***?

 

[Brad69]

What’s the point of being a pro student?

You can earn six figures with a HS diploma. My SIL is 30 makes over $150,000 a year. No student loans has a home and is living a good middle class life.

Most people in this area with 4 year or higher non Specialized degrees work as bank tellers. Some go to factory work 4 years behind their peers with student debt.

 

[bwframe]

Faculty urge trustees to reconsider decision on graduate worker union recognition

A letter from the Bloomington Faculty Council said inaction would assure a strike in the fall.

www.idsnews.com

 

[Kirk Freeman]

What’s the point of being a pro student?

You can earn six figures with a HS diploma. My SIL is 30 makes over $150,000 a year. No student loans has a home and is living a good middle class life.

Most people in this area with 4 year or higher non Specialized degrees work as bank tellers. Some go to factory work 4 years behind their peers with student debt.

Nephew #2: machinist, just turned 21, $35/hr, used to work at Cabot Arms, now works in machine shop of my brother's steel mill, overtime optional but all he wants.

Nephew #3: electrician, 19, makes $33.50/hr, mandatory overtime (he is between 65 and 75 hours per week), saving to buy house outright

 

[amboy49]

IU Board of Trustees says no to a student labor union, grad workers prepare for fall strike

Indiana University graduate workers prepare for another strike in the fall after board of trustees denounce union efforts.

www.heraldtimesonline.com

I suspect the Administration spends all kinds of effort telling these students as undergrads they had intrinsic values just because they existed - thus compelling them to obtain a worthless four year degree after borrowing tens of thousands of dollars.

Now that the university has their money they want to use them like hired help to be “TA“ to teach undergraduate classes plus assist full professors in doing the mundane work they don’t want to do because they are too busy writing their paper so they get tenure and have a guaranteed job. Is that about right ?

 

[two70]

Now that the university has their money they want to use them like hired help to be “TA“ to teach undergraduate classes plus assist full professors in doing the mundane work they don’t want to do because they are too busy writing their paper so they get tenure and have a guaranteed job. Is that about right ?

Close, the TAs do the teaching because many professors view that as beneath them and prefer to concentrate on writing grant applications and doing research. Of course, the professors main role in writing the applications and doing the research is to supervise the students doing the actual work, which frees them up to do more prestigious and lucrative things like give guest lectures and do consulting.

Now, instead of going along with the program in the hopes of one day becoming the professor at the head of their own little fiefdom, the entitlement that so many of them were taught by their professors has set in and they want to be paid instead of paying their dues.

 

[amboy49]

Happened at UW Madison the year before I went for my MA. Grad TAs collaborated with the Teamsters to unionize.

The university fired them all.

Surprising - I thought UMadison was pretty liberal.

 

[BigRed]

Surprising - I thought UMadison was pretty liberal.

"Progressive"...until it impacts them.

 

[wtburnette]

"Progressive"...until it impacts them.

Exactly. They'll teach Progressive BS and virtue signal on all sorts of issues, but once it impacts them they'll do the most conservative thing...

 

[BugI02]

Indiana Univ. Health Secretly Gives $416M to Med School, Lowering Profit

Indiana University Health, the largest healthcare system in Indiana with 16 hospitals statewide, quietly donated $416 million to its associated Indiana University School of Medicine late last year, ap

www.realclearpolicy.com

 

[KittySlayer]

Faculty urge trustees to reconsider decision on graduate worker union recognition

A letter from the Bloomington Faculty Council said inaction would assure a strike in the fall.

www.idsnews.com

Wonder if the faculty offered to reduce their own salaries to help pay the “poor” graduate assistants in addition to allowing lower tuition to avoid excessive student loan debt?

Bleeding heart liberal faculty were certainly disappointed previously when they couldn’t participate in Occupy Wall Street since the were the cause of high student debt.

 

[xwing]

If they want to get real pay, they should get real jobs. College is supposed to be for a short period of time while you prep for the real world. Some seem to stay there forever...