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Installed NM Float Tube and Handguards
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It's only 100 yards with a known good load. I hesitate to point a finger at the trigger puller, but....
I'd bag both front and rear and try some other ammo. Temporarily take the Indian out of the equation. My Colt prefers 69 & 77gr SMK to Hornady 75gr.
But, like you, I bought & installed a CLE free float tube and had guards. I haven't shot mine since installing them though (2+ years!!!).
But, like you, I bought & installed a CLE free float tube and had guards. I haven't shot mine since installing them though (2+ years!!!).
It's not the trigger puller. 100 yd, 5-shot group with my US Springfield M1922M1.
Jon
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Couple of things:
1. Awesome to see someone else getting into highpower! When you're ready to come to Atterbury next year and shoot with CIHPRS, let me know.
2. Any if the powders you mentioned will work ok, but don't overlook Vihtavouri N135 and N140. Its top notch stuff, and somehow more available and cheaper than anything else right now.
3. It's tough, but don't put TOO much faith in AR groups shot from a rest like that if you're not accustomed to shooting them off a bench. An AR is a different animal than a bolt gun. There's a long time for things to move around between when that hammer releases and starts its 90 deg swing until it makes contact with the piring pin.
In my experience, I can only get an AR to group off a bench if I'm gripping it tight (as in tight enough to leave checkering imprints on my hand, not enough to squeeze water out of it). I pull it firmly into my shoulder, and try to smother it with a lot of cheek pressure if you can still get a good sight picture. Basically I try to smother it to keep it from moving between hammer trip and when the bullet leaves the barrel. Free recoil never worked at ALL for me with an AR.
When I'm shooting my service rifle in a prone match (60 rnds plus sighters), I sling up tight enough that I'll be bruised where the stock lays in my shoulder pocket. That's through a t-shirt, hoodie, and a heavy Creedmoor hardback coat. That's sling tension, not recoil. Other better shooters than me may disagree, but I shot all my best scores slung up TIGHT.
1. Awesome to see someone else getting into highpower! When you're ready to come to Atterbury next year and shoot with CIHPRS, let me know.
2. Any if the powders you mentioned will work ok, but don't overlook Vihtavouri N135 and N140. Its top notch stuff, and somehow more available and cheaper than anything else right now.
3. It's tough, but don't put TOO much faith in AR groups shot from a rest like that if you're not accustomed to shooting them off a bench. An AR is a different animal than a bolt gun. There's a long time for things to move around between when that hammer releases and starts its 90 deg swing until it makes contact with the piring pin.
In my experience, I can only get an AR to group off a bench if I'm gripping it tight (as in tight enough to leave checkering imprints on my hand, not enough to squeeze water out of it). I pull it firmly into my shoulder, and try to smother it with a lot of cheek pressure if you can still get a good sight picture. Basically I try to smother it to keep it from moving between hammer trip and when the bullet leaves the barrel. Free recoil never worked at ALL for me with an AR.
When I'm shooting my service rifle in a prone match (60 rnds plus sighters), I sling up tight enough that I'll be bruised where the stock lays in my shoulder pocket. That's through a t-shirt, hoodie, and a heavy Creedmoor hardback coat. That's sling tension, not recoil. Other better shooters than me may disagree, but I shot all my best scores slung up TIGHT.
Thanks for the pointers.
I'm not new to HP. Been shooting XTC and MR with my M1( got my "one per life time" M1 way back in '80) and 03-A3 for 40+ years. I'm just new to the AR platform. Only have 2 years behind it and I'm still learning how to drive it. Load development is still a work in progress.
I figured that it couldn't shoot any worse with the NM mods. At the very least, I'll be able to sling up tight now.
Thanks again. I'll be in touch.
Jon
I appreciate the invite. I'd be there if I could but there's a LOT of miles between L.A. and Indiana.
Jon
But a great reason for a road trip
UPDATE 02/09/24
I shot the local XTC match last month and I can tell you, free-floating the handguard really was worth it. I picked up 46 points and shot a personal best. My old "best" was a 616 (800 possible) and my new "best" is a 662. That's just 8 points shy of moving up to Sharpshooter class. I was pretty stoked about that. Thanks to all for your words of encouragement. Now to focus on mineself and strive for expert. I feel it's finally within reach.
I'll keep you posted on my progress.
Jon
I shot the local XTC match last month and I can tell you, free-floating the handguard really was worth it. I picked up 46 points and shot a personal best. My old "best" was a 616 (800 possible) and my new "best" is a 662. That's just 8 points shy of moving up to Sharpshooter class. I was pretty stoked about that. Thanks to all for your words of encouragement. Now to focus on mineself and strive for expert. I feel it's finally within reach.
I'll keep you posted on my progress.
Jon
