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  • Prometheus

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    Try and look at it this way......90% of the tickets are written by 10% of the officers. I know, I know that REALLY messes the numbers up doesn't it?? Well, what happens is you get the "traffic nazi's" (yes I went there and I am a cop), out there that writing tickets is what they do, either they are traffic officers or patrol officers that can't pass up the chance to write a ticket. When you get this mentality, then they have a tendency to write 2-3 tickets per stop so that is why the numbers are so high. Combine that mentality with the fact that they don't have to "write" it anymore becuase it's done with a scanner and it makes it eaiser to tag someone with multiples on a single stop.

    I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS MENTALITY OR THIS PRACTICE.....but this is how it is. My department is right around 100 officers and I could probably name off 7-10 officers that do the majority of ticket writing in our department, Hmmmmm.......10%. Me on the other hand I give around 95% warnings and 5% tickets. Before anyone jumps on me for "not doing my job", I work under the thought process that me stopping you in most cases is enough to correct the action for which I stopped you. If I get an aurgument when walk up or serious attitude, then maybe you need something more than just being stopped. I will say though that I don't just automatically go to the ticket. I will normally tell people that I am planning to give them a warning, but if they still want to aurgue then I can change that to a ticket and we can aurgue in front of a judge.

    I don't know if this helps to understand this a little bit better, but I hope it does........now let the flaming begin.

    If that doesn't deserve rep, I don't know what does. :yesway:
     

    Mgderf

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    Naw, it doesn't make it any easier to GET a ticket. It makes it easier to GIVE one!
    The people getting all these tickets, are still learning how to drive, not to mention how to "play nice with others".
    When I first got my license, I saw a bumper sticker than sunk in,
    "Drive like hell, You'll get there"
     

    22rssix

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    Unmarked cars can do traffic stops, however the officer must be in uniform.

    Marked cars, the officer does not have to be in uniform to do traffic stops.
     

    SavageEagle

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    Unmarked cars can do traffic stops, however the officer must be in uniform.

    Marked cars, the officer does not have to be in uniform to do traffic stops.

    I thought only on-duty officers can write you citations unless it was a state cop? Any cop can pull you over, but must call in backup to write you up.

    Or has this changed too?
     

    Chefcook

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    Try and look at it this way......90% of the tickets are written by 10% of the officers. I know, I know that REALLY messes the numbers up doesn't it?? Well, what happens is you get the "traffic nazi's" (yes I went there and I am a cop), out there that writing tickets is what they do, either they are traffic officers or patrol officers that can't pass up the chance to write a ticket. When you get this mentality, then they have a tendency to write 2-3 tickets per stop so that is why the numbers are so high. Combine that mentality with the fact that they don't have to "write" it anymore becuase it's done with a scanner and it makes it eaiser to tag someone with multiples on a single stop.

    I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS MENTALITY OR THIS PRACTICE.....but this is how it is. My department is right around 100 officers and I could probably name off 7-10 officers that do the majority of ticket writing in our department, Hmmmmm.......10%. Me on the other hand I give around 95% warnings and 5% tickets. Before anyone jumps on me for "not doing my job", I work under the thought process that me stopping you in most cases is enough to correct the action for which I stopped you. If I get an aurgument when walk up or serious attitude, then maybe you need something more than just being stopped. I will say though that I don't just automatically go to the ticket. I will normally tell people that I am planning to give them a warning, but if they still want to aurgue then I can change that to a ticket and we can aurgue in front of a judge.

    I don't know if this helps to understand this a little bit better, but I hope it does........now let the flaming begin.

    I agree with Prometheus....:yesway: +1+ a bunch
     

    Frank_N_Stein

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    I thought only on-duty officers can write you citations unless it was a state cop? Any cop can pull you over, but must call in backup to write you up.

    Or has this changed too?

    There is no requirement to be on-duty in order to issue a citation or make an arrest. The law states in order to enforce the traffic law, an officer must either be in a clearly marked car or wearing a uniform that clearly identifies them as a LEO.

    SECTION 1. IC 9-30-2-2 IS AMENDED TO READ AS FOLLOWS [EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 1999]: Sec. 2. (a) A law enforcement officer may not arrest or issue a traffic information and summons to a person for a violation of an Indiana law regulating the use and operation of a motor vehicle on an Indiana highway or an ordinance of a city or town regulating the use and operation of a motor vehicle on an Indiana highway unless at the time of the arrest the officer is:
    (1) wearing a distinctive uniform and a badge of authority; or
    (2) operating a motor vehicle that is clearly marked as a police vehicle;
    that will clearly show the officer or the officer's vehicle to casual observations to be an officer or a police vehicle.
    (b) This section does not apply to an officer making an arrest when there is a uniformed officer present at the time of the arrest.
    (c) A person who:
    (1) is a law enforcement officer;
    (2) is not at the time of an arrest for a violation of an Indiana
     

    rambone

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    I'm in automation and I don't like it being applied to giving out countless tickets.

    I calculate 525,600 minutes in a year, so if they give 1 million tickets, that amounts to almost 2 tickets per minute. fyi
     

    Boilers

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    Okay. What is the average time to 'give' a ticket?

    How many officers does it take to average out to two per minute across the whole state?

    And who here has a friend that is likely to be getting ONE of those TWO per minute? :)
     

    darrent

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    Okay. What is the average time to 'give' a ticket?

    How many officers does it take to average out to two per minute across the whole state?

    And who here has a friend that is likely to be getting ONE of those TWO per minute? :)


    Let's see...
    1,000,000 dollars (oh wait not Austin Powers - I mean tickets)
    / 365 days
    = 2740 per day
    / 24 hours
    = 114 per hour

    Excluding multiple citations and assuming that there is a 15 minute time window between citations
    / 4
    = 28.5 number of officers needed (one was a K-9 unit).

    However, these super troopers cannot work 365/24/7, but it gives you the "cop-power" needed to generate 1,000,000 tickets in a year.
     
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