I Hired Mexicans and I'm Proud of It!

[88GT]

Wish in one hand, crap in the other,.. Tell me which one fills up first.

My roof got done when I needed and I have no regrets...

If anyone need to know where to hire anyone, PM me.

I'm not usually one to trot out the "me first" argument to justify anything related to government authority/laws, but I do see the underpinnings of "**** everybody else, I got mine" in your post. Liberty works when people take care of each other almost as well as they take care of themselves. For all the hate about the collective good around here, people can't seem to understand that no man is an island and there is a point where the community has to be fed and nurtured just as much as the individual. (The issue becomes an issue when the feds or local gov try to mandate/control how it's done.)

If we could get local guys to do half the job the Mexicans do we wouldn't have a problem with illegal immigration. They wouldn't have any job positions to fill!

There are plenty of good contractors and technicians out there who are great at their jobs, but there are equally as many who just lower the bar.

Wrong. If we got rid of minimum wage laws and Americans knew they didn't have a legal claim to more than the job was worth, we wouldn't have as big a problem with illegal immigration.

Your (non-specific) 10 square job probably wasn't going to net the profit the "American" company wanted/needed to make. Professional courtesy dictates a response even if it is, "Hey, sorry, I can't afford to take that job." But it's still economic freedom.

There is an undercurrent of entitlement in posts that demand a particular level of customer service from a company. And it makes me

Guys, not all are illegal. Many are here legally on work visas, and they work hard to send money back home before their time is up. Don't hate the players, hate the game, and until we get our borders shut, this is what's gonna happen a lot.

Which makes the OP all the more idiotic, doesn't it?

This winter when you get the inevitable ice damn back up and your new spectacular roof starts leaking , you gonna call them back to honor their warranty ?

Here's a clue for folks when dealing with American contractors , if you have three or four turn your job down , there's something wrong about you or the job itself and they don't want to get involved with it .

It could be that your talking to bums , your not wanting to pay enough or that they see something about the job that needs more work than you want to pay for , so they'd rather not get involved .

I know other contractors here can vouch for that if they'd care to chime in , some jobs you just have to turn down .

There's another option: they just don't want the job because of the opportunity costs. Take the small job with the small profit margin or the large job with the larger profit margin.

Disagree all you want , but it still doesn't mean I'm wrong .

Doesn't make you right either.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Illegals live 10 deep in apartments, don't pay workmans comp and don't pay taxes because WE ALLOW our politicians to make it that way.

Absolutely. I've said multiple times on this forum that neither party wants the problem fixed. Republicans want to keep wages low and unions busted for their big business buddies. Democrats want to legalize millions of new 'minority' voters and anything that keeps the working class in need of the welfare state.

Not enough people care, and the race to the bottom continues.

 

[M1 carbine dad]

So, let me post an experience with Hispanic roofers and an American contractor that DIDN'T go well.

We had hail damage to our roof, got screwed over by our insurance who said we had hail impacts but not "damage"....even though everyone else on the block were having roofs installed. (except every single neighbor who had the same insurer as us )

But I digress. Let me preface this by saying this roofer is very well known in the Indy area and Angie's list gave them a pretty glowing review.

So they show up and it is a crew of Hispanic workers. No problem. And they kicked arse and got the roof off and new one almost completed by the time I got home from work.

Now, they were also to replace the roofing boards as well since several were broken. This is where the job falls apart. I get home and the supervisor is there. I ask him if they got the boards replaced. He calls the head of the crew over and asks him if he replaced the roofing boards. He says "Si". Now my BS radar is honking at me because I don't see any cut boards, no sawdust from board cutting. All I see is a 6x6 sheet of 3/4" subfloor with a corner cut out of it. I ask if that's the wood they used to fix the roof and get another "si". Well, that's not gonna work 'cause I have slat roof boards, not sheet. BS BS BS HONK HONK HONK!!!!!

Turns out, they lied out their arses about doing the roof board. SO, they had to tear it all down and redo it at their expense.

NEXT, they come back out to do it second time....Same crew. They pull a dumpster trailer into the back garage driveway to dump the garage roofing into, they can't get the giant dually pickup they're now using to get the trailer out (different from the one they used to put the trailer in) and they get stuck. So, I have a dually truck half on the road and half hanging off and over my neighbors yard (their yard is lower than the road)! My wife calls me while she watches this crew try and push a dually crew cab pickup hooked up to a trailer backwards and forwards to get it unstuck. They wound up tearing up his yard getting the truck out. AND, they screwed up again! They were supposed to put in a ridge vent (which they did) but they failed to cover the holes for the old box vent !!!! Holy crap! Really?

So, they now have to come out a THIRD time and replace the roof, at their cost. I tell the contractor if they bring out that same darn crew, I'm going to hurt someone. They agree and bring out a completely caucasian crew complete with mullets and bad, 70's porno mustaches to do the job. They were like a whirlwind of work! They got the hole patched, found stuff that the original crew screwed up (roofing boards they didn't do right) and put a new roof on in record time! I think I had about 15 guys up there. It was amazing.

Bad luck with a crew? Maybe. But the original crew were so inept, it was like watching keystone cops of old.

Lesson learned? a). Don't use that roofing company anymore AND b) 15 caucasian, mulletted, porn mustache guys got stuff done faster and better than 10 hispanics who worked hard, but didn't know their chizz at all.

Not saying that all Hispanics are like that, but MAN! C'MON!

 

[Classic]

Yeah and there are hundreds of employers who will tell you that illegals are the only ones willing to work their crops.... clean their toilets.... spray their insulation... show up on time to work etc....

What you describe isn't the illegals fault... it is OUR FAULT. We allow this system PERIOD.

Illegal Immigration happens because WE THE PEOPLE don't put a stop to it. All of those policies you describe WE ALLOW. Our country is ****ed up because of us... not because of Mexicans or Muslims or Politicians or Jews or whatever. Its because we have become decadent and complacent as a people. Illegals live 10 deep in apartments, don't pay workmans comp and don't pay taxes because WE ALLOW our politicians to make it that way.

It happens because so many are willing to hire illegals to make money or get a service cheaper, no matter what the societal consequences. The flood will continue so long as the greedy hire the illegals.

 

[lucky4034]

It happens because so many are willing to hire illegals to make money or get a service cheaper, no matter what the societal consequences. The flood will continue so long as the greedy hire the illegals.

So rather than accept any responsibility for ourselves as a nation (because we all are allowing our nation to fall apart)... we should simply look at each individual case and find someone to blame?

News flash... our nation is falling apart for more reasons than just citizens hiring cheap staff. The institution is falling apart at every seam and instead of saying that the American People are failing this nation... we find someone to blame for every seam.

I know the answer... "Its the Democrats fault"

 

[Trigger Time]

Oh also the OP acted like it was a miracle they spoke English. You better believe they can speak and understand English better than most inner city delinquents when they WANT to!

 

[Classic]

The government is everyone's favorite whipping boy and it is true they have dropped the ball here, but again, if no one was willing to hire the illegal workers, few would come illegally.

 

[mrjarrell]

Wish I could find some Mexicans, (or Nicaraguan's or Ecuadorians) to do a couple of jobs for me. Can't seem to find any concentrations of them in my area. I'd hire them in a minute.

 

[Trigger Time]

Wish I could find some Mexicans, (or Nicaraguan's or Ecuadorians) to do a couple of jobs for me. Can't seem to find any concentrations of them in my area. I'd hire them in a minute.

You want a cookie?

 

[mrjarrell]

You want a cookie?

Nope. I have plenty in the pantry if I need one. What I don't have is access to hard working Hispanics willing to do a job for a fair wage.

 

[lucky4034]

Quieres una galleta?

FIFY

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

Pride?

I belive my $0.02 is the same as this thread:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...d_immigration_for_mexicans-9.html#post1121691

See post #88 and the report contained in it.

Your roof was very expensive, implicitly.

Like environmental legislation, there should be a credible threat of business owners and plant managers going to jail for knowingly breaking the law. Make the hiring of an illegal carry the same weight and we'll see some progress.

If you think the problem is smaller than it was in 1997 when the report was published, or the type of guys that hang out at the local 7-11 for a pick-up truck ride to their next cash construction job are not here illegally, I don't know how to help you.

 

[lucky4034]

Nope. I have plenty in the pantry if I need one. What I don't have is access to hard working Hispanics willing to do a job for a fair wage.

Pretty sad that for $40 the only Americans willing to cut your lawn and trim your bushes are minors... and even then, that's not a given.

 

[Trigger Time]

Nope. I have plenty in the pantry if I need one. What I don't have is access to hard working Hispanics willing to do a job for a fair wage.

I doubt the quality of work will be good unless you watch them like a hawk. I have some past experience with some that were Definitely legal and yes they will work their buts off, doing it their way! They don't want to do it the right way because they like to take short cuts. Then play dumb like they didn't understand your English. Easy fix ...... Fired.

 

[lucky4034]

I doubt the quality of work will be good unless you watch them like a hawk. I have some past experience with some that were Definitely legal and yes they will work their buts off, doing it their way! They don't want to do it the right way because they like to take short cuts. Then play dumb like they didn't understand your English. Easy fix ...... Fired.

I went to McDonalds yesterday and had a similar experience with an entirely white crew of late teens from predominately rich neighborhoods.

Go figure

 

[Trigger Time]

Pride?

I belive my $0.02 is the same as this thread:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...d_immigration_for_mexicans-9.html#post1121691

See post #88 and the report contained in it.

Your roof was very expensive, implicitly.

Like environmental legislation, there should be a credible threat of business owners and plant managers going to jail for knowingly breaking the law. Make the hiring of an illegal carry the same weight and we'll see some progress.

If you think the problem is smaller than it was in 1997 when the report was published, or the type of guys that hang out at the local 7-11 for a pick-up truck ride to their next cash construction job are not here illegally, I don't know how to help you.

Yeah the OP better be watching out that they don't come back with friends and steal all his stuff and maybe rape his wife and dog while they are there.

This is one reason I will not even hire local "handymen" who walk around sticking flyers in my door asking for work. When you look like you just got released from prison and can't even take a bath or brush your teeth you have left, he'll no I'm not gonna trust you to do crap to or in my house. I wasn't born yesterday.

 

[Trigger Time]

I went to McDonalds yesterday and had a similar experience with an entirely white crew of late teens from a predominately rich town.

Go figure

Same applies ..... Fired.


Did you follow them home? Just wondering how you know which social class their parents belong to? Kids are on a separate playing field than foreign adult workers

 

[lucky4034]

Oh wait... I forgot to mention that those white teens didn't really want to be there and weren't working their butts off. They actually couldn't have given a **** less because their paycheck was going to go toward Air Jordans, beer/weed and a Lil Wayne CD... all of which their parents will pay for if they asked anyway

 

[Trigger Time]

Oh wait... I forgot to mention that those white teens didn't really want to be there and weren't working their butts off. They actually couldn't have given a **** less because their paycheck was going to go toward Air Jordans, beer/weed and a Lil Wayne CD... all of which their parents will pay for if they asked anyway

That's a lot to assume from a fast food stop. You should be a detective.

 

[lucky4034]

Same applies ..... Fired.


Did you follow them home? Just wondering how you know which social class their parents belong to? Kids are on a separate playing field than foreign adult workers

Fire them? How? The manager was short staffed as it is. If he fires them, then hamburgers don't get made.