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  • SSE

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    I would like to know how accurate your PCC is. I have an AR45 that shoots 1 1/2" to 2" at 25 yards off a bench with scope.
    I have tried everything to get it to shoot better but nothing works. So, are these blowback carbines just not that accurate? Tell me what kind of groups you get.
     

    Fixer

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    I have an AR45 w/6" barrel. I have only shot it at about 10-15yds. It is primarily a self defense weapon/truck gun. I can't see getting much past 25yds and being able to claim self defense in most situations. Most of the handloads I run keep in the 2" or under group size from 7 -15yds. That's off hand with a red dot. I haven't tried from a rest.
     

    BJHay

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    I've got a Kel-Tec Sub2000 in 9mm. Not a typical PCC but a PCC nonetheless.

    I can easily hit a 5" plate 100% of the time while resting on a rail at 80yds with factory ammo and iron sites.
    I'm going to guess it's at least a 4 MOA and probably better. I'm pleased with this in a folding gun.
     

    DadSmith

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    My Ruger PC Carbine 9mm shot 3.5" groups at 50yd with Wolf Performance 115gr. 4" groups with Winchester white box 115gr. 3" groups with 124gr RMR HP.
    I want to try 147gr in it this year to see how it does.
    That was with a 1-6×24 strike eagle.
    I now have a Swampfox liberator on it so I imagine accuracy will drop off without 6x magnification and my poor eye sight.
     

    SnoopLoggyDog

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    My Ruger PC Carbine 9mm shot 3.5" groups at 50yd with Wolf Performance 115gr. 4" groups with Winchester white box 115gr. 3" groups with 124gr RMR HP.
    I want to try 147gr in it this year to see how it does.
    That was with a 1-6×24 strike eagle.
    I now have a Swampfox liberator on it so I imagine accuracy will drop off without 6x magnification and my poor eye sight.
    I get the same level of accuracy out of my PC9 carbine and AR9. Mostly shoot Remington 115 grain bulk pack or my own reloads. Both can make multiple hits on a gallon jug at 100 yards.
     

    Amishman44

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    I have an AR45 w/6" barrel. I have only shot it at about 10-15yds. It is primarily a self defense weapon/truck gun. I can't see getting much past 25yds and being able to claim self defense in most situations. Most of the handloads I run keep in the 2" or under group size from 7 -15yds. That's off hand with a red dot. I haven't tried from a rest.
    That's a great point...self-defense claims decrease as the distances increase especially when other options are available!
    My wife's Beretta CX-4 is a hoot to shoot at 75-100 yards and will easily shoot a sub 3" group at 25 yards.
    But I wouldn't consider it a self-defense scenario unless it's an in-house or on-property situation!
     

    clayshooter99

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    My Wilson Combat AR9G will do 1.5" at 50 yds. It like the 147 and 124 weights the best, 115's are terrible. Killed a fair amount of small game with it. Must remember that pistol bullets are not rifle bullets, so you can't expect that!!!!!!
     

    Usmccookie

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    It's been a while, but last time i shot my UZI (my only pcc) I was at about 3-4" @25 yds standing. I'm sure it could hit 1" at 25yds from the bench.
     

    DadSmith

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    My Wilson Combat AR9G will do 1.5" at 50 yds. It like the 147 and 124 weights the best, 115's are terrible. Killed a fair amount of small game with it. Must remember that pistol bullets are not rifle bullets, so you can't expect that!!!!!!
    What bullets did you get 1.5" groups with? Hornady XTP or Hap?
     

    clayshooter99

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    What bullets did you get 1.5" groups with? Hornady XTP or Hap?
    Those were 147 grain Winchester Law Enf rounds. Speer Gold Dot 124 also did real well. All the small game and varmits that I have killed were with the Speer loads. spent some serious time on the bench with that gun playing around different loads. Seemed that any +P ammo did not do as well grouping.
     

    daddyusmaximus

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    Here's a 3 shot group as good as I could do on an old M16 zero target.
    The target was at the 50 yd line, and I was shooting standing, offhand.
    Here's the trick. My PCC was a .44 mag levergun with a Sig Romeo 5 red dot.
    .44 mag target 1.JPG
     

    92FSTech

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    My PCC was a .44 mag levergun with a Sig Romeo 5 red dot.

    Yep, my 1894 in .45 Colt will perform similarly. That thing is more accurate than any levergun has a right to be! It hammers steel, too, as those big heavy bullets gain a lot of velocity in that 20" barrel compared to the 4 5/8" tube on my Blackhawk! My .357 is no slouch, either. Leverguns in magnum pistol calibers are a lot more capable than many folks give them credit for.

    My homebuilt CMMG RDB 9mm AR is not as accurate...maybe 2-3" at 50 yards, off a rest. Accuracy-wise it's got nothing on my .223 rifles. I can hit 6" plates with it at 100 consistently, though, which is good enough for its intended purpose. I built it so I'd have a long-gun option to use on steel and other dynamic stuff in the pistol-caliber-only bays at my club. The longest those go out to is about 45 yards, so it's more than adequate in that environment.
     

    tcecil88

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    My 8" FX-9 will shoot into 1 1/2" @ 50 yards from the bench with Federal HST 147 gr. +p and a Vortex Crossfire red dot. It performs better than I expected when I bought it. Offhand @ 15 yards, it's one ragged hole. I have not shot it at 100, but because it's a house gun, I don't really see the need to. I have rifle caliber stuff ready to go for longer distances.
     

    mcapo

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    My MPX will shoot about 3" (maybe a little less) at 50 yards - with a red dot.

    Can't say that I've ever done a true accuracy test with it. It hit hits the steel that I aim at from 25-100 yards. Can't really say I expect anymore out of it than that.
     
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