In my case it was some dude I met at a bike rally, never watched the show, never really cared. All I can say is if he was an actor, he was a good one, especially after all the booze he was drinking.
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House votes to decriminalize marijuana at federal level
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While my attitude towards serious drug/alcohol use remains the same I can see only a few issues with legalization and less with MJ than with Alcohol.
The booze addicts I know are far worse off than the regular MJ users.
I also see it’s benefits among a few more serious PTSD cases. Those folks find a bit of peace. In that I have no issues.
I know far more folks who are messed up due to alcohol than pot.
Absolutely.
I have been saying this for years, actually decades. Ditch weed has grow wild in my area for 100 years. In the 60’s when I was in high school it was smoked by many prior to “imported” weed becoming available. So I have 50+ years of observing difference between drinkers and smokers. However I don’t have to look farther than my own family members to come to the realization that alcohol can be/is far more destructive than weed. However I still have friends my age ( 70+ ) that believe no difference between using weed and heroin. I have given up even discussing it with them…Reefer Madness still lives. To me it is perfectly clear that it will be legalized on a federal level only question is when. In my opinion the sooner the better. The war on drugs has been a total failure.
And even a decade after legalization with no rampant issues or collapse of society, those same naysayers will still be stuck on that idea that its just as bad.
Marijuana, alcohol, nicotine, meth, opioids, fentanyl, a buzz is a buzz.
If the buzz is the goal, then what does it say for the soles that feel they need to seek it to deal with normal life? Should they not be helped to understand how to better deal with life issues as they come, rather than attempting to better or dull their perception with chemicals?
So much of the "need" for chemical adjustments to mentality has been pounded into us for our whole life. A huge amount of advertising from every media has taught us that intake of chemicals to "make life better," is a normal adult behavior. Peer pressure along with other advertised examples have solidified this. We have all been raised this way in one fashion or another.
Normalizing the use of another mind altering chemical by legalization is not really the issue. The idea that it's need for use on a recreational or daily basis is what needs to be looked at. The mentality and associated behavior is the real issue.
It doesn't matter whether pot is legalized or not. The problem lies in the attitude that intoxication is a part of a productive human life.
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If the buzz is the goal, then what does it say for the soles that feel they need to seek it to deal with normal life? Should they not be helped to understand how to better deal with life issues as they come, rather than attempting to better or dull their perception with chemicals?
So much of the "need" for chemical adjustments to mentality has been pounded into us for our whole life. A huge amount of advertising from every media has taught us that intake of chemicals to "make life better," is a normal adult behavior. Peer pressure along with other advertised examples have solidified this. We have all been raised this way in one fashion or another.
Normalizing the use of another mind altering chemical by legalization is not really the issue. The idea that it's need for use on a recreational or daily basis is what needs to be looked at. The mentality and associated behavior is the real issue.
It doesn't matter whether pot is legalized or not. The problem lies in the attitude that intoxication is a part of a productive human life.
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Most everything I've been trying to say, put very conciselyMarijuana, alcohol, nicotine, meth, opioids, fentanyl, a buzz is a buzz.
If the buzz is the goal, then what does it say for the soles that feel they need to seek it to deal with normal life? Should they not be helped to understand how to better deal with life issues as they come rather than attempting to better or dull their perception with chemicals?
So much of the "need" for chemical adjustments to mentality has been pounded into us for our whole life. A huge amount of advertising from every media has taught us that intake of chemicals to "make life better," is a normal adult behavior. Peer pressure along with other advertised examples have solidified this. We have all been raised this way in one fashion or another.
Normalizing the use of another mind altering chemical by legalization is not really the issue. The idea that it's need for use on a recreational or daily basis is what needs to be looked at. The mentality and associated behavior is the real issue.
It doesn't matter whether pot is legalized or not. The problem lies in the attitude that intoxication is a part of a productive human life.
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D'Accord
Do you guys ever do any kind of activity that brings you pleasure? (Get your minds out of the gutter!) Is doing something that releases endorphins wrong? Because you know... you should maybe find some activities that don't do that. And before you say, "Well that's natural!", note that it has been mentioned upthread that humans have cannabanoid receptors already that stimulate areas of the brain to bring about pleasure.
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Master
Sex is a recreational activity. Some people are considered sex addicts. David Duchovny is one such example. Should we outlaw sex since some feel a compulsive, uncontrollable urge to engage in it daily? What about adrenaline junkies? Everyone typically has some type of vice. Perhaps they truly cannot avoid their vice. Or maybe they just genuinely enjoy their vice. If they've done no harm to others, where is the crime? Someone getting stupid drunk doesn't harm others. If they get stupid drunk and drive, the potential for harming others increases. For that reason we've outlawed drunk driving. But we haven't outlawed consuming alcohol.
You are confusing biological cause and effect. Cannabinoid receptors modulate the release of chemicals that inhibit the release of neurotransmitters like dopamine
MJ only got noticed by humans because of the dope effect, it isn't that the body developed the receptors because people were smoking pot. Otherwise, why would they smoke it if the receptors didn't exist yet
Unless you are saying neonicatinoid pesticides are effective because all the insects have been smoking tobacco for ages
Since you all like to say how long humans have been smoking pot and how natural it is, people have been using alcohol a lot longer in the form of fermented beverages without distillation - archeological evidence begins at around 10000 B.C.
Shouldn't alcohol get a pass because 'people have been drinking for thousands of years'
Edit: Replying to DoggyDaddy's #270
MJ only got noticed by humans because of the dope effect, it isn't that the body developed the receptors because people were smoking pot. Otherwise, why would they smoke it if the receptors didn't exist yet
Unless you are saying neonicatinoid pesticides are effective because all the insects have been smoking tobacco for ages
Since you all like to say how long humans have been smoking pot and how natural it is, people have been using alcohol a lot longer in the form of fermented beverages without distillation - archeological evidence begins at around 10000 B.C.
Shouldn't alcohol get a pass because 'people have been drinking for thousands of years'
Edit: Replying to DoggyDaddy's #270
Alcohol has gotten a pass. I've long suspected it's because the people that make the laws like to get their drink on. Not to mention that it's a multi-billion dollar a year industry.
But regardless, bwframe and you have both indicated that people should just find some other way to "deal with life's problems" (paraphrasing) without altering their mood or mental state. I'm simply saying that people have many ways of doing just that (altering their mental state).
Got severe PTSD? Deal with it sissy! Screw taking anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds, or *gasp* using MJ. 
Got severe pain or nausea from cancer treatments? Suck it up, buttercup!
The Bubba Effect
Grandmaster
Yes yes a thousand times yes!
MJ may well be the least dangerous of thoseGot severe PTSD? Deal with it sissy! Screw taking anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds, or *gasp* using MJ.
Well, prohibition seemed to make the women folk uglier... or maybe men were just seeing them through clearer eyes...
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