Guns checked into Amtrak is a GO! But it's cost us 1.1 TRILLION!

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  • jedi

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    Well I6BO needs to sign it into law but that I'm sure he will. :xmad:

    SOURCE: Senate sends $1.1 trillion spending bill to Obama - Yahoo! News

    WASHINGTON – The Senate on Sunday passed a $1.1 trillion spending bill with increased budgets for vast areas of the federal government, including health, education, law enforcement and veterans' programs.
    The more-than-1,000-page package, one of the last essential chores of Congress this year, passed 57-35 and now goes to President Barack Obama for his signature.
    The weekend action underlined the legislative crush faced by Congress as it tries to wind up the year. After the vote, the Senate immediately returned to the debate on health care legislation that has consumed its time and energy for weeks. Senate Democrats hope to reach a consensus in the coming days on Obama's chief domestic priority.
    The spending bill combines six of the 12 annual appropriation bills for the 2010 budget year that began Oct. 1. Obama has signed into law five others.
    The final one, a $626 billion defense bill, will be used as the base bill for another catch-all package of measures that Congress must deal with in the coming days. Those include action to raise the $12.1 trillion debt ceiling and proposals to stimulate the job market.
    The spending bill passed Sunday includes $447 billion for departments' operating budgets and about $650 billion in mandatory payments for federal benefit programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Those programs under immediate control of Congress would see increases of about 10 percent.
    The FBI gets $7.9 billion, a $680 million increase over 2009; the Veterans Health Administration budget goes from $41 billion to $45.1 billion; and the National Institutes of Health receives $31 billion, a $692 million increase.
    All but three Democrats voted for the bill, while all but three Republicans opposed it. Democrats said the spending was critical to meet the needs of a recession-battered economy. "Every bill that is passed, every project that is funded and every job that is created helps America take another step forward on the road of economic recovery," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said after the vote.
    Republicans decried what they called out-of control spending and pointed to an estimated $3.9 billion in the bill for more than 5,000 local projects sought by individual lawmakers from both parties.
    The Citizens Against Government Waste said those projects included construction of a county farmer's market in Kentucky, renovation of a historic theater in New York and restoration of a mill in Rhode Island.
    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a longtime critic of such projects, said it was "shameful" that so many had found their way into the legislation. Most Americans, he said, were watching football and not the Senate debate, adding, "If they knew what we are about to pass ...."
    The legislation also contains numerous items not directly related to spending. It provides help for auto dealers facing closure, ends a ban on funding by the District of Columbia government for abortions and allows the district to permit medical marijuana, lets Amtrak passengers carry unloaded handguns in their checked baggage and permits detainees held at Guantanamo Bay to be transferred to the United States to stand trial, but not to be released.
    The bill also approves a 2 percent pay increase for federal workers.
    With the Senate concentrating on health care, attention on the upcoming jobs plan shifts to the House.
    The defense bill that will be the basis for the package normally enjoys wide bipartisan support, but Republicans, and some fiscally conservative Democrats, are unhappy with the prospect of another jolt of deficit-swelling spending.
    Congress must soon raise the debt ceiling, now at $12.1 trillion, so the Treasury can continue to borrow, and Democratic leaders are eyeing a new figure close to $14 trillion, pushing the issue past next November's election.
    But a bipartisan group in the Senate says a higher ceiling should be tied to creation of a task force on deficit reduction, and House Democratic moderates say their votes could depend on winning a "pay-as-you-go" law requiring that new tax cuts or spending programs don't add to the deficit.
    Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., on CNN's "State of the Union," favored a deficit task force. He said he didn't "see how this process where everybody kind of lards on is going to actually ever come to an end unless we finally have the discipline to do a straight up-or-down vote across the board on revenues and spending cuts."
    Proposals to put people back to work include tax breaks for new company hires, small business tax breaks, public works spending and federal aid to states.
    Congress is also likely to extend measures, included in the $787 billion stimulus act last February, that provide jobless payments and health insurance subsidies for the unemployed.
     

    j706

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    Wow isn't that just great news. Nothing surprises me with this bunch of clowns we have running this country. And just wait until this health care mess is over. It will then be gun control time...bet on it.
     

    jedi

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    Wow isn't that just great news. Nothing surprises me with this bunch of clowns we have running this country. And just wait until this health care mess is over. It will then be gun control time...bet on it.

    But... But... It will just be some "common sense" gun laws that's all. ;):xmad:
     

    renegade

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    Oh you know they were going to spend that money anyway, But at least they the people get something worthwhile out of it.
     

    NWIeng

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    Oh you know they were going to spend that money anyway, But at least they the people get something worthwhile out of it.

    Yeah, but why get something a bit more important than bringing a checked firearm on amtrak in your stowed luggage?

    like...I don't know...the nationwide reciprocity that barely got voted down as an amendment to some obscure unrelated bill?
     

    Ramen

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    Wow isn't that just great news. Nothing surprises me with this bunch of clowns we have running this country. And just wait until this health care mess is over. It will then be gun control time...bet on it.


    I doubt the Federal Government will have time to enact gun control. They will be too busy dealing with the hyperinflation they and the Federal Reserve created.


    They will fail at that too.
     

    alfahornet

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    Well I never even realized they didn't allow it before. I guess never having taken AMTREK I shouldn't be surprised. Do they make you go through some screening? Why would you otherwise not just carry it on. Or is that illegal.

    Sorry if this sounds stupid I am just not at all familiar with Amtrek
     

    DemolitionMan

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    I saw this on Fox & Friends this morning and had a good laugh over it. Your tax dollars at work...

    FOXNews.com - Typo in Law Establishes Mandate to Lock Gun-Toting Train Passengers in Boxes

    Because of a typo, President Obama signed a bill into law Wednesday that requires passengers who carry firearms aboard Amtrak be locked in boxes for their journey.
    Harry Houdini made a career escaping from locked boxes. So did David Copperfield and Doug Henning.
    And now, add to that list Amtrak passengers packing heat in their luggage?
    It may sound absurd. But President Obama signed a bill into law Wednesday that requires passengers who carry firearms aboard Amtrak be locked in boxes for their journey.
    It's a mistake in the law's wording. But for now, the clerical error is the law of the land.

    So unless you want to be in a lockbox, don't pack a gun for your Amtrak trip..... :laugh:
     

    jedi

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    The last time I rode an Amtrack was in 2000 from Chicago to Boston. At that time there was no metal detector screen of bags and/or passangers. You wait for the train to arrive at the station give the conductor your bags, hope on the train, find a seat and off you go. I suspect that is still the way it's done now as well. I could see metal detactors in the big stations (ie. large cities) but Amtrack does a lot of stops at smaller stations (typically just a ticket shack) & there is no way they have the move for that type of screening.



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    Is FOX smoking something? A clerical error? Really? LMAO
    [/STRIKE] NM I re-read the article. Hum.. me suspects this was done on purpose now!
     
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    I am not travel-lingo-savvy.
    What is checked baggage?
    or other types?
    I can never remember, and have NEVER needed to know how Amtrak does baggage.
     

    DemolitionMan

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    I am not travel-lingo-savvy.
    What is checked baggage?
    or other types?
    I can never remember, and have NEVER needed to know how Amtrak does baggage.

    Checked baggage is placed in a storage area and is not available to you during the trip, just like checked bags on a plane are down in the cargo hold. It is legal to transport firearms in checked baggage on airplanes, but until this law it was not legal to do that on a passenger train. So this is actually a good thing -- once they fix the wording, that is!
     
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