Greenwood mall shooting

[bobzilla]

For what it's worth, I'll note that Dicken was violating the idiotic Greenwood Park Mall "Gun Free Zone" rule.

Which carry’s no weight of law and is merely a building suggestion. They c an always ask him to leave.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Just to add some back story, some items were stolen from those who dropped/left their things and ran.

The cookie place in the mall took what was on their counter and secured it, and gave it back to those who claimed it.

 

[Bugzilla]

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10 rounds, 8 hits, @ 40 yards ... in 15 seconds?! Even if it wasn't a full 40 yards... John Wick ain't got sht on this guy.

If he is supposedly an untrained concealed carrier, I would love to see what a fully trained person would do.

 

[Bugzilla]

And remember Eli was behind a column. If he is using that base as cover, Im not sure meatbag would have seen him until it was too late.

Maybe too many Al Capone movies growing up, but I always try to sit at a place with at minimum a good view of the place (restaurant) I’m at.

 

[KG1]

For what it's worth, I'll note that Dicken was violating the idiotic Greenwood Park Mall "Gun Free Zone" rule.

This whole incident was a glaring example of why GFZ.s are an utter abject failure and don't save lives. Thank heaven that Dicken chose to disregard that senseless rule.

And thank heaven that signs don't carry the weight of law in Indiana because chances are if they did the murderous hell bound subhuman that broke the law with the intent to kill as many unarmed helpless souls as he could would've been the only one armed.

A GFZ didn't save any lives. Eli Dicken did.`

 

[Bugzilla]

Wrong person. You're thinking of Anita Dicken.

Is she the owner of Dicken’s Cider?

 

[bobzilla]

If he is supposedly an untrained concealed carrier, I would love to see what a fully trained person would do.

Part of it is training part of it is instincts. Some people with all the training in the world freeze. Some advance. Sone run. We don’t know what any of us would do in that same situation. I just hope I’d have the same testicular fortitude as this young man if faced with the same situation.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

 

[dusty88]

In the video shared earlier from Colin Noir, Noir gives some FBI stats on shootings stopped by civilians. Does anyone have a reference to where that data is collated?

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Maybe too many Al Capone movies growing up, but I always try to sit at a place with at minimum a good view of the place (restaurant) I’m at.

Didn't watch that many Al Capone movies growing up but I still try to sit facing the door with a good general view of the restaurant. Sitting with my back to the door makes me uncomfortable. Its just good SA practice.

 

[dusty88]

This is the story regarding Gomez. He was the unfortunate man who walked into the restroom and shot by the scumbag. They later found he had a pistol on him. https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-new...-it?dicbo=v2-9ffa38a3260bd1407481b6bae805da7d

 

[tscherry70]

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This... is the greatest thing i've seen this morning. Thank you!

Now, what i want to also see is the live shoot out on Active Self Protection.

 

[DragonGunner]

Maybe we should petition Gov Holcomb to bestow upon Eli the Sagamore of the Wabash.

I wouldn't want to see that scumbag Holcomb anywhere near Eli. That scumbag would surely like to use it to get votes.

 

[Dean Weingarten]

This is the story regarding Gomez. He was the unfortunate man who walked into the restroom and shot by the scumbag. They later found he had a pistol on him. https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-new...-it?dicbo=v2-9ffa38a3260bd1407481b6bae805da7d

So we had two legally armed people in the food court. Interesting.

 

[ancjr]

So we had two legally armed people in the food court. Interesting.

At least 2.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So we had two legally armed people in the food court. Interesting.

Likely more.

It's Johnson County, that mall pulls in people from surrounding counties which are very rural.

A plurality of the adult males were carrying if not half I imagine.

 

[wtburnette]

I know I carry any time I'm at the GPM, though that is a rare occurrence.

 

[Shadow01]

will Eli be invited to the White House?

 

[Dean Weingarten]

At least 2.

Looking at what Chief Ison said on the interviews I watched, I did not see him say Gomez was armed. I saw him say the killer had a pistol but did not have time to use it.

This will get cleared up, but the reporting that Gomez was armed seems from early on the 18th or on the 19th, and no further confirmation I can find. I have not seen a clear quote from Chief Ison or anyone else mention that Gomez was armed.

 

[Denny347]

The big take away for me is there are more than 20 spent casings visible, and he only fired 24. Scumbag didn’t take more than a few steps.

Those are live rounds. One of the rounds he took to the chest went through one of the mags on his chest, spilling a bunch of live rounds.