Government collecting data on millions of gun owners

[BigRed]

Note to self… Never vote for Snoop if he runs for office!

Why? Because he knows what is going on?

 

[tbhausen]

Why? Because he knows what is going on?

Like I said, excellent post, perfect analogies. Of course I know he’s on our side!

 

[A-Aron88]

Covid has only emboldened government and anyone not taking this information seriously should probably wake up.

Clearly laws are only for the people these days and not government officials.

 

[Leadeye]

My guess is that the info will somehow find it's way out into public so anybody searching the internet can get an idea how many guns, what type, and your location. Provides a burglar's shopping list and info for community organizers to have people with signs and phones on your lawn.

Instant gun control for leadership and they don't have to do anything more than an oops with the data.

 

[patience0830]

My guess is that the info will somehow find it's way out into public so anybody searching the internet can get an idea how many guns, what type, and your location. Provides a burglar's shopping list and info for community organizers to have people with signs and phones on your lawn.

Instant gun control for leadership and they don't have to do anything more than an oops with the data.

Get off my lawn or become one with it. Your choice..

 

[KellyinAvon]

Tucker Carlson is about to cover this subject.

 

[manifest destiny]

I especially like the new ATF regs that include never destroying 4473, used to be at 20yrs ffl could destroy. Oh, and the super efficient 4473 that includes buyer's personal info and weapons info on one page. "We're not creating an easily searched database. We'd just like all your information stored, digitally, in one location, on government owned computers."

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

ATF raids Lake of the Ozarks gun store, confiscates all firearms

The ATF was at Skelton Tactical all day on Tuesday.

www.lakenewsonline.com

Agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) raided the Skelton Tactical gun shop, 6196 Osage Beach Parkway in Osage Beach, at approximately 8:30 a.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 9.

According to gun shop owner Jim Skelton, approximately 15 agents entered the shop – seven deep -- in full riot gear bearing automatic weapons.

Skelton’s brother, Ike Skelton, a witness at the gun shop during the raid said, “When I started to record them they took my cell phone and told me to stop. They searched me and took my gun.” ATF agents confiscated all the guns in Skelton Tactical, and Ike’s business, Skelton Key and Lock, claiming it was for their ‘safety’.”

The ATF was at Skelton Tactical all day on Tuesday.

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

Note to self… Never vote for Snoop if he runs for office!

Excellent post, perfect analogies.

If I ever ran for office, my focus would be to stop government overeach and reduce it's regulations, size and spending. The government works for us.

First priorites would be cutting spending, lifting the import ban on Russian and Chinese ammo and building the wall.

 

[tbhausen]

If I ever ran for office, my focus would be to stop government overeach and reduce it's regulations, size and spending. The government works for us.

First priorites would be cutting spending, lifting the import ban on Russian and Chinese ammo and building the wall.

I should’ve used purple text. Of course, I know you’re on our side.

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

I should’ve used purple text. Of course, I know you’re on our side.

It was a good post.

There is a reason people at work call me "grumpy cat".

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

Meanwhile in Virginia...

Virginia Incorrectly Adds 46,000 Citizens To FBI's NICS Prohibited Person List

Blaming a technical error, Virginia State Police incorrectly added over 46,000 residents a Federal list of people prohibited from owning guns.

www.ammoland.com

A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by Gun Owners of America (GOA) shows that the Commonwealth of Virginia incorrectly added over 46,000 of its citizens to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) indices.

According to Virginia State law, anyone who is voluntarily committed to a mental institution loses their gun rights. Only potential buyers who have been committed involuntarily or have been will lose their gun rights federally. Even though they lose their state gun rights, they are not prohibited from buying firearms by federal law.

This is a unique feature that allows the state to place more restrictions on it's citizens.

 

[manifest destiny]

Meanwhile in Virginia...

Virginia Incorrectly Adds 46,000 Citizens To FBI's NICS Prohibited Person List

Blaming a technical error, Virginia State Police incorrectly added over 46,000 residents a Federal list of people prohibited from owning guns.

www.ammoland.com

A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by Gun Owners of America (GOA) shows that the Commonwealth of Virginia incorrectly added over 46,000 of its citizens to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) indices.

According to Virginia State law, anyone who is voluntarily committed to a mental institution loses their gun rights. Only potential buyers who have been committed involuntarily or have been will lose their gun rights federally. Even though they lose their state gun rights, they are not prohibited from buying firearms by federal law.

This is a unique feature that allows the state to place more restrictions on it's citizens.

Wow. So 'single point of contact' states, FFL's only contact the state database? Not NICS?
But the state must submit to 'audits' ?? by the fed... Further, a prohibited person within a 'single point of contact' state could, theoretically, purchase a firearm privately, in another state or win a firearm in a raffle, inherit a firearm, etc. and still be legal federally.?
Confused I am.

 

[pokersamurai]

A “gun owner database” is a larger threat to the 2nd amendment than anything else. As soon as the gov knows where all the guns are it’s only a matter of time until they try to push an Australia-style confiscation.

 

[22ishplinkster]

A “gun owner database” is a larger threat to the 2nd amendment than anything else. As soon as the gov knows where all the guns are it’s only a matter of time until they try to push an Australia-style confiscation.

Like snowden said about the NSA programs. Turnkey Tyranny is the name of the game

 

[BigRed]

TARGETING YOUR RIGHTS: Republicans alarmed by possible Biden admin step to impact gun rights

Rep. Michael Cloud led colleagues in a letter to acting ATF Director Marvin Richardson on Monday, expressing their concern over a potential backdoor gun registry around Congress’ prohibition.

www.foxnews.com

 

[DoggyDaddy]

TARGETING YOUR RIGHTS: Republicans alarmed by possible Biden admin step to impact gun rights

Rep. Michael Cloud led colleagues in a letter to acting ATF Director Marvin Richardson on Monday, expressing their concern over a potential backdoor gun registry around Congress’ prohibition.

www.foxnews.com

If only we knew what BigRed would say about this...

 

[22ishplinkster]

TARGETING YOUR RIGHTS: Republicans alarmed by possible Biden admin step to impact gun rights

Rep. Michael Cloud led colleagues in a letter to acting ATF Director Marvin Richardson on Monday, expressing their concern over a potential backdoor gun registry around Congress’ prohibition.

www.foxnews.com

So the meat behind this is the attempt to change the 20 year burn rule. AKA today, FFL need to keep their records for 20 years. If they go out of business before then, they need to send records to ATF, But after 20 years they can delete them.

Source for the following info:

When the ATF gets the 4479, they actually scan them in, but they cant run OCR on the forms due to other laws on the books preventing a searchable database. So instead they archive the records as PDFs by date and FFL.

All thats preventing a national gun registry is a few thousand dollars on AWS. (OCR on existing PDFs) And these laws on the books prohibiting a gun registry. Midterms are so important!

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

Bet the Australians wish they still had their guns.

Australian Army Begins Transferring COVID-Positive Cases, Contacts To Quarantine Camps

Australian Army Begins Transferring COVID-Positive Cases, Contacts To Quarantine Camps The Australian army has begun forcibly removing residents in

www.nationandstate.com

This is why we never give up our freedoms and liberty.

 

[churchmouse]

ATF raids Lake of the Ozarks gun store, confiscates all firearms

The ATF was at Skelton Tactical all day on Tuesday.

www.lakenewsonline.com

Agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) raided the Skelton Tactical gun shop, 6196 Osage Beach Parkway in Osage Beach, at approximately 8:30 a.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 9.

According to gun shop owner Jim Skelton, approximately 15 agents entered the shop – seven deep -- in full riot gear bearing automatic weapons.

Skelton’s brother, Ike Skelton, a witness at the gun shop during the raid said, “When I started to record them they took my cell phone and told me to stop. They searched me and took my gun.” ATF agents confiscated all the guns in Skelton Tactical, and Ike’s business, Skelton Key and Lock, claiming it was for their ‘safety’.”

The ATF was at Skelton Tactical all day on Tuesday.

I have personally heard that "For our safety" before and it is