I had to fly home this past weekend. I flew Continental from Houston's Bush Airport to Ohare on Thursday. I read online how to package my gun and ammo, how to declare it at Bush. I told the woman at airline it was locked in its case then I dropped it off as regular luggage (cost me $18). When I arrived at Ohare I was just waiting for a stink with it being Chicago but no problems. I decided to ship it back rather than dealing with it at Ohare when I went back Sunday. I thought it would be more of a hassle than it was.
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I think you made a good call with shipping it back. You know this made me think about how many air-marshals there are on any given flight? They obviously can't be everywhere. Are we really that well protected?
What about the pilots carrying guns...I mean how can they protect us when they are flying the plane and/or drunk from too many in the lounge?
What about the pilots carrying guns...I mean how can they protect us when they are flying the plane and/or drunk from too many in the lounge?
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Yeah that's very odd. I'm surprised they let you take it on board considering you'd land in a place where it was illegal. Peacable Journey, et al don't apply when you can't legally possess the handgun at your destination.
O'hare does actually happen to be inside city limits. The airport itself is connected to the city by a narrow "band" of city municipality.
O'hare does actually happen to be inside city limits. The airport itself is connected to the city by a narrow "band" of city municipality.
critter592
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What about the pilots carrying guns...I mean how can they protect us when they are flying the plane and/or drunk from too many in the lounge?
Heyyyyyy.... We're not all drunk.
I recently traveled with a handgun through Reagan airport in D.C. I had a good conversation with the lady at the airport about it and she informed me that there shouldn't be any problems at any aiport in the U.S. as long as the gun remains unloaded and locked in your bag when being checked. Also...just always make sure you let them know you have it in advance. I was actually very pleasantly surprised at how easy the whole process was.
Federal Law says I can transport through any state while traveling to another. I do not stay overnight in the city I only travel through.
ETA Otherwise I would be arrested at the check-in counter when I declare my weapon.
Buckaroo
You physically stop in the City of Chicago and do not have your gun locked up in your trunk with the ammo locked up in a second storage area not within reach of the first? Peacable Journey requires separate locked storage, both not accessible from a single spot in your vehicle. Yes, you are allowed to transport a firearm in your vehicle. YOUR vehicle. Would you attempt this on a bus?
You are saying that if I'm ever caught in the City of Chicago that I can declare that I'm moving right through, even if I am out of my vehicle with the firearm no longer stored in two separate areas?
You are saying that if I'm ever caught in the City of Chicago that I can declare that I'm moving right through, even if I am out of my vehicle with the firearm no longer stored in two separate areas?
Timjoebillybob
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There is case law on this unfortunately I can't find it at the moment, there was a man who was arrested at the airport in I think NY or NJ and was charged with possessing an unregistered handgun, he was found guilty but it was overturned on appeal and found that he was covered under the fed peaceable journey law, since the airport was not his final destination and the stop was required to continue his trip.
As for being caught in Chicago, it would depend, are you at the airport with the gun in a suitcase on your way to check in? Yes you would be covered. If you were out of your vehicle other than that with the firearm probably not.
Also where do you get that they both have to be locked up in separate areas? That is not required under fed law. Perhaps in Texas maybe?
Since I've worked in the airline industry for years. I've had my checked bags gone through, but nothing was stolen, they must not have liked my Batman Underoos. LOL, just kidding... Plus, I've watched the baggage handlers mistreat the baggage time and again. I've been told that there has been numerous accounts of handlers going through baggage and stealing. From various airlines and airports. I am glad that those of you that travel with your firearms have had no problems. I don't think I can do it, I would be a nervous wreck!
Well I'll believe it since you've seen case law. I'm not the type to insiste you dig it up for me. We're all here to share information and I thank you for that.
I had no idea you could stop along the way. I have heard they expect you to move right along through an area you're not supposed to be in.
Did we glaze right over the first clause of this law though?
"Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or
regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof,"
This means "you can until someone else with authority says you can't"
Also, reread that entire copy and paste job of yours.
It clearly states the ammunition and firearm must be kept separate where not readily accessible or directly accessible. In an unlocked case IS directly accessible. And when they are not locked in the trunk and are perhaps in a suitcase in your backseat, they MUST be locked up. So either locked in the trunk or locked up in a suitcase in your vehicle. That's "locked" to me and that's why I said "locked". Separate was meant to be conveyed as separate areas.
I had no idea you could stop along the way. I have heard they expect you to move right along through an area you're not supposed to be in.
Did we glaze right over the first clause of this law though?
"Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or
regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof,"
This means "you can until someone else with authority says you can't"
Also, reread that entire copy and paste job of yours.
It clearly states the ammunition and firearm must be kept separate where not readily accessible or directly accessible. In an unlocked case IS directly accessible. And when they are not locked in the trunk and are perhaps in a suitcase in your backseat, they MUST be locked up. So either locked in the trunk or locked up in a suitcase in your vehicle. That's "locked" to me and that's why I said "locked". Separate was meant to be conveyed as separate areas.
I agree that you will have no problems at O'Hare or Midway. You are correct about not needing to have locked storage for your ammo, I just have extra cases so that is what I do.
I never have shipped a handgun to myself but I know it is quite a bit more expensive to ship handguns legally than to check your baggage.
Buckaroo
No. That means "it doesn't matter what state/local law says, we're giving you permission". If not then there is absolutely no point to the law.
It would make no sense at all to say that state A law says no firearms allowed but federal law says that as long as you're just passing through state A you're legal, EXCEPT that you're not legal because state A says no firearms allowed.
Unless you mean "separate" as in "the ammo separated from the gun" as in "unloaded" then that is not required. There is no requirement to store the ammo separate from the gun as long as the gun is not loaded. You can have the ammo in the same container as the gun as long as there is no bullet in the gun & they are not accessible or they are in a locked container.
IndyGunSafety
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This is absolutley WRONG. I fly for a living and take my firearm everywhere, and I'm not an FDO. So does my girlfriend. You have the right to travel through on your way to any other destination. If your final destination was Chicago (not some suburb) and the police caught you outside the airport then you could face trouble. The airline could care less where your destination is once you leave the airport and have no way of knowing anyway. You are covered by Peacable Journey laws. Just because you change your mode of transportation does not mean your are not protected and have violated the law because you land in Chicago.
Flying with a handgun in checked baggage is easy, as long as you follow the rules. Don't try to sneak it through without declaring it and you will be fine.
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