Ex-SEALs in Libya

[darrent]

Another example of American Soldiers stepping up in a time of need, disregarding their own safety. Here is an except from the article:

Edit: removed due to copyright issues, sorry, I gotta.


U.S. officials clarify administration description of two heroes in Libya attack | WashingtonGuardian

 

[lucky4034]

RIP

 

[Shoots4Fun]

Heroes in service until the end...Rest in peace.

 

[repeter1977]

There are some that know their duty, even when its not necessarily theirs. Those that run to the sounds of the guns even though they know it will not go right, but they cannot sit around. Glad to share the earth with some of them.

 

[Armed-N-Ready]

DAMN FEW!

 

[Blackhawk2001]

I was listening to the radio today and heard some guy who claimed to be a disabled vet who had been a SPECOPS troop. He was so POd he was in tears. According to him, some Administration official basically attempted to smear the name of one of the ex-SEALs who was killed attempting to protect our Libyan Ambassador. He basically threw up the "fact" that the guy was killed while "diving for cover" as if that was some sort of cowardly act. Haven't read it anywhere else, but this guy was as angry as anyone I have ever heard on the radio. Of course, being this Administration, this is all too easy for me to believe, whether or not it's true.

 

[repeter1977]

I was listening to the radio today and heard some guy who claimed to be a disabled vet who had been a SPECOPS troop. He was so POd he was in tears. According to him, some Administration official basically attempted to smear the name of one of the ex-SEALs who was killed attempting to protect our Libyan Ambassador. He basically threw up the "fact" that the guy was killed while "diving for cover" as if that was some sort of cowardly act. Haven't read it anywhere else, but this guy was as angry as anyone I have ever heard on the radio. Of course, being this Administration, this is all too easy for me to believe, whether or not it's true.

Those monday morning quarterbacks that have never had shots fired in anger say things like this, that upset warriors. Just like if the mission is to get the "boss" out of danger, then suddenly they are "fleeing" instead of taking on mass mobs. Those idiots will NEVER understand, so they say things like that (not the caller, the one he was upset by). Hard to know where cover is when the whole country is going up in flames and you are a stranger in a strange land, but at least that SEAL did something instead of sitting around whining about others.

 

[loony1]

RIP to some true heros!

 

[TheRude1]

RIP

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Those monday morning quarterbacks that have never had shots fired in anger say things like this, that upset warriors. Just like if the mission is to get the "boss" out of danger, then suddenly they are "fleeing" instead of taking on mass mobs. Those idiots will NEVER understand, so they say things like that (not the caller, the one he was upset by). Hard to know where cover is when the whole country is going up in flames and you are a stranger in a strange land, but at least that SEAL did something instead of sitting around whining about others.

He and his mate were security contractors, presumably sent to evaluate the security of the consulate at Benghazi; they weren't the Ambassador's bodyguards, but they jumped in and tried to save him anyhow and died in the doing of it. Slap the Trident-and-musket on their coffins.

 

[BStarkey 46947]

Notice there has not been any retaliation for the Libyan attack. Miss the good old days when Reagan was around.

 

[hornadylnl]

Notice there has not been any retaliation for the Libyan attack. Miss the good old days when Reagan was around.

What retaliation did Reagan do?

1983 Beirut barracks bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
U.S. President Ronald Reagan called the attack a "despicable act"[17] and pledged to keep a military force in Lebanon. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, who had privately advised the administration against stationing U.S. Marines in Lebanon,[18] said there would be no change in the U.S.'s Lebanon policy. On October 24, French President François Mitterrand visited the bombed French site. It was not an official visit, and he only stayed for a few hours, but he did declare "We will stay." U.S. Vice President George H. W. Bush toured the Marine bombed-site on October 26 and said the U.S. "would not be cowed by terrorists."[19]
In retaliation for the attacks, France launched an airstrike in the Bekaa Valley against alleged Islamic Revolutionary Guards positions. President Reagan assembled his national security team and planned to target the Sheik Abdullah barracks in Baalbek, Lebanon, which housed Iranian Revolutionary Guards believed to be training Hezbollah militants.[20] A joint American-French air assault on the camp where the bombing was planned was also approved by Reagan and Mitterrand. Defense Secretary Weinberger lobbied successfully against the mission, because at the time it was not certain that Iran was behind the attack.
There was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans,[21] besides a few shellings. In December 1983, U.S. aircraft from the USS*John F. Kennedy and USS*Independence battle groups attacked Syrian targets in Lebanon, but this was ostensibly in response to Syrian missile attacks on American warplanes.
Multi-service ground-support units were withdrawn from Beirut after the attack on the barracks due to retaliatory threats.

 

[hondatech2k2]

Long Live the Brotherhood.

 

[repeter1977]

He and his mate were security contractors, presumably sent to evaluate the security of the consulate at Benghazi; they weren't the Ambassador's bodyguards, but they jumped in and tried to save him anyhow and died in the doing of it. Slap the Trident-and-musket on their coffins.

I know, i was agreeing. They seen something that needed to be done, jumped in and did it.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

What retaliation did Reagan do?

1983 Beirut barracks bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
U.S. President Ronald Reagan called the attack a "despicable act"[17] and pledged to keep a military force in Lebanon. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, who had privately advised the administration against stationing U.S. Marines in Lebanon,[18] said there would be no change in the U.S.'s Lebanon policy. On October 24, French President François Mitterrand visited the bombed French site. It was not an official visit, and he only stayed for a few hours, but he did declare "We will stay." U.S. Vice President George H. W. Bush toured the Marine bombed-site on October 26 and said the U.S. "would not be cowed by terrorists."[19]
In retaliation for the attacks, France launched an airstrike in the Bekaa Valley against alleged Islamic Revolutionary Guards positions. President Reagan assembled his national security team and planned to target the Sheik Abdullah barracks in Baalbek, Lebanon, which housed Iranian Revolutionary Guards believed to be training Hezbollah militants.[20] A joint American-French air assault on the camp where the bombing was planned was also approved by Reagan and Mitterrand. Defense Secretary Weinberger lobbied successfully against the mission, because at the time it was not certain that Iran was behind the attack.
There was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans,[21] besides a few shellings. In December 1983, U.S. aircraft from the USS*John F. Kennedy and USS*Independence battle groups attacked Syrian targets in Lebanon, but this was ostensibly in response to Syrian missile attacks on American warplanes.
Multi-service ground-support units were withdrawn from Beirut after the attack on the barracks due to retaliatory threats.

Reagan's retaliation against Libya was for the PanAm 103/Lockerbie bombing. Once it was traced back to a Libyan agent, he sent a bombing raid against Ghaddafi's residence, missing him but killing his daughter.

IMO, there was no retaliation against the bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon because it was an attack against a military target, not against civilians as was the PanAm bombing and this current atrocity.

 

[hornadylnl]

Reagan's retaliation against Libya was for the PanAm 103/Lockerbie bombing. Once it was traced back to a Libyan agent, he sent a bombing raid against Ghaddafi's residence, missing him but killing his daughter.

IMO, there was no retaliation against the bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon because it was an attack against a military target, not against civilians as was the PanAm bombing and this current atrocity.

Got it. 241 American servicemen and women die in a terrorist attack, do nothing. 4 Americans (agents of the state) die in protests, it's time for genocide.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Got it. 241 American servicemen and women die in a terrorist attack, do nothing. 4 Americans (agents of the state) die in protests, it's time for genocide.

Apparently we differ on the concept of what constitutes "terrorism". I won't insult you by implying that you don't understand the differences between attacking a military target and attacking civilians.

Military target = "war" civilian target= "terrorism"

The mechanism of the act isn't as important as the purpose of the act. A roadside bomb intended to blow up an enemy vehicle or initiate an ambush is an act of war; a car bomb in a marketplace is terrorism.

As for the four civilians murdered by terrorists; the terrorists attacked US soil and it is becoming apparent that it was an organized attack, not "spontaneous protestors". We should find the perps and make examples of them, the same as we should of any "protestor" who climbs the walls of one of our embassies and desecrates our flag. If they cross "the red line", our Marines should shoot them down.

 

[hornadylnl]

Apparently we differ on the concept of what constitutes "terrorism". I won't insult you by implying that you don't understand the differences between attacking a military target and attacking civilians.

Military target = "war" civilian target= "terrorism"

The mechanism of the act isn't as important as the purpose of the act. A roadside bomb intended to blow up an enemy vehicle or initiate an ambush is an act of war; a car bomb in a marketplace is terrorism.

As for the four civilians murdered by terrorists; the terrorists attacked US soil and it is becoming apparent that it was an organized attack, not "spontaneous protestors". We should find the perps and make examples of them, the same as we should of any "protestor" who climbs the walls of one of our embassies and desecrates our flag. If they cross "the red line", our Marines should shoot them down.

And there's a difference between civilian tourists and civilian agents of the state.

So are you putting a lid on your genocidal tendencies now?

 

[hornadylnl]

Also, there's a difference between state sanctioned acts of terrorism and terrorist actions by individuals. I don't think your family should pay if Jim Bob and his toothless brethren take it upon themselves to attack a foreign embassy in the US.