Correct me if I’m wrong…

[bobzilla]

… but I keep seeing in the classy’s “you pay for transfer”. Now, I was under the impression that to “transfer” you would need to have it registered. Since Indiana does not have any “registration”, what is it they think they’re doing? Or am I completely wrong here?

Is this to have the buyer run a 4473 at a gun shop? Because you’re not “transferring” anything with that.

Just one of those 2am “what the hell” things.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Not sure but I’m guessing they mean an FFL/4473 transfer.

And…this is INGO. We’ll correct you whether you’re right or wrong.

 

[bobzilla]

But that’s not a transfer unless they’re an ffl getting it off their books. And if they are an ffl why would they make someone pay to fill out a 4473?

Edit: or is this another one of those misconceptions that a 4473 is a registry and filling one out transfers that firearm to you?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

But that’s not a transfer unless they’re an ffl getting it off their books. And if they are an ffl why would they make someone pay to fill out a 4473?

Edit: or is this another one of those misconceptions that a 4473 is a registry and filling one out transfers that firearm to you?

It's really no different than ordering a gun online, having it shipped to your ffl, filling out the 4473 and taking possession of the gun.

 

[KellyinAvon]

… but I keep seeing in the classy’s “you pay for transfer”. Now, I was under the impression that to “transfer” you would need to have it registered. Since Indiana does not have any “registration”, what is it they think they’re doing? Or am I completely wrong here?

Is this to have the buyer run a 4473 at a gun shop? Because you’re not “transferring” anything with that.

Just one of those 2am “what the hell” things.

IANAL, but going the 4473 route shows the firearm no longer in possession of the seller and that it didn’t go into the possession of a prohibited possessor.

It temporarily transfers to the FFL, then to the buyer.

Seller makes the call here with the terms. Anywhere from “Cash? Cool!!” to “need to see drivers license, LTCH, do a 4473, and I only take crisp $20s and don’t forget the cheeseburger surcharge.”

Note to self: remember the cheeseburger surcharge if I ever sell a gun.

 

[bobzilla]

IANAL, but going the 4473 route shows the firearm no longer in possession of the seller and that it didn’t go into the possession of a prohibited possessor.

It temporarily transfers to the FFL, then to the buyer.

Seller makes the call here with the terms. Anywhere from “Cash? Cool!!” to “need to see drivers license, LTCH, do a 4473, and I only take crisp $20s and don’t forget the cheeseburger surcharge.”

Note to self: remember the cheeseburger surcharge if I ever sell a gun.

I completely understand it’s the sellers right to demand a handy if they do choose. Just wondering what the thought process is here. Part of that deals with the new “rule” they want to implement that makes anyone selling or trading a dealer by their new distorted interpretation. Keeping records (bos etc) seems like that could make you an easy target.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I completely understand it’s the sellers right to demand a handy if they do choose. Just wondering what the thought process is here. Part of that deals with the new “rule” they want to implement that makes anyone selling or trading a dealer by their new distorted interpretation. Keeping records (bos etc) seems like that could make you an easy target.

Ah, the “engaged in the business” ever changing definition trap.

Cheeseburger surcharge is still on the table.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I completely understand it’s the sellers right to demand a handy if they do choose. Just wondering what the thought process is here. Part of that deals with the new “rule” they want to implement that makes anyone selling or trading a dealer by their new distorted interpretation. Keeping records (bos etc) seems like that could make you an easy target.

Could be. I don’t imagine it would take much to run a query on how many guns John Doe bought/sold in 2023 and then take action accordingly.

 

[JAL]

IANAL, but going the 4473 route shows the firearm no longer in possession of the seller and that it didn’t go into the possession of a prohibited possessor.

It temporarily transfers to the FFL, then to the buyer.

Seller makes the call here with the terms. Anywhere from “Cash? Cool!!” to “need to see drivers license, LTCH, do a 4473, and I only take crisp $20s and don’t forget the cheeseburger surcharge.”

Note to self: remember the cheeseburger surcharge if I ever sell a gun.

That's how I've always interpreted this seller's condition. It's similar to buying a firearm online with it being shipped to a local FFL for transfer to the buyer. The seller is doing a CYA to prevent from being accused of having sold a firearm to a "prohibited" person. Seller will ship it to the FFL of buyer's choice who can take possession after passing a 4473 NICS and paying the FFL's transfer fee . . . typically in the $20 - $25 range.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

But that’s not a transfer unless they’re an ffl getting it off their books. And if they are an ffl why would they make someone pay to fill out a 4473?

Edit: or is this another one of those misconceptions that a 4473 is a registry and filling one out transfers that firearm to you?

If a private party sale goes through a FFL with a 4473 I believe that the FFL is required to log the firearm into his books from the seller and then out to the purchaser. So they are "getting it off their books".

 

[MrSmitty]

I now a new caveat...Cheeseburger surcharge!
Thanks Kelly!!
"Note to self: remember the cheeseburger surcharge if I ever sell a gun."

 

[printcraft]

I now a new caveat...Cheeseburger surcharge!
Thanks Kelly!!
"Note to self: remember the cheeseburger surcharge if I ever sell a gun."

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[Robert Richardson]

I see that on a for sell ad and I'm out.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

I see that on a for sell ad and I'm out.

Why do you hate cheeseburgers? And America?